[Advocacy Advisors] Wikipedia Zero and net neutrality

effe iets anders effeietsanders at gmail.com
Sun Aug 3 20:09:27 UTC 2014


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2014-08-02 10:37 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>:

> Hi Jens,
> Just out of curiosity for clarification, given your Praesidium signature:
> are you engaging this discussion strongly from your personal interest, or
> did WMDE create a position on this issue be it formally or not?
>
> Thanks, lodewijk
> On Aug 2, 2014 1:34 AM, "Jens Best" <jens.best at wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>> my first repsonse to Erics text:
>>
>> a lot of words, a lot of "believing in this & that", some emotional
>> storytelling - but nothing on the simple fact that any zero-rating is a
>> clear violation of net neutrality.
>>
>> So, is this supposed to be the opening of a discussion? For me this text
>> doesn't sound like that any discussion with an open result is possible or
>> even welcomed.
>>
>> This text is in clear contradiction to the recent statement of EFF. So is
>> the Foundation willingly trying to violate one of the basic principles of
>> an open web just to be part of the Facebook Zero, Google Zero, Coke Zero -
>> Group? Is the foundation really that naive to not see that this way it
>> becomes part of the marketing machine of access providers to deteriorate
>> user habits?
>>
>> So, as a net neutrality advocate somebody has to ask him-/herself if
>> he/she really wants to participate in a discussion which result is already
>> determined. What is EFF saying to this clear violation of net neutrality by
>> WMF?
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Jens Best
>>
>>
>> 2014-08-02 0:48 GMT+02:00 Yana Welinder <ywelinder at wikimedia.org>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I wanted to follow up on the discussion on Wikipedia Zero and net
>>> neutrality on this list. We just posted a discussion on this topic:
>>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/01/wikipedia-zero-and-net-neutrality-protecting-the-internet/
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Yana
>>>
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>>
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