[Advocacy Advisors] [Internal-l] CPA : Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 - Philippines

Sun Sep 23 02:43:40 UTC 2012

Hello,

I am now concern that if an editor posted something that is not favorable
to a known personality, even its supported by facts and sources, that known
personality will just file a complaint over the Department of Justice to
block access to the said article. Even the act is just *Prima facie.*

http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/takedown-clause-in-cybercrime-law-very-dangerous-lawyers-say

http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/new-cybercrime-law-could-lead-to-warrantless-takedowns-of-websites-privacy-violations

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/43480/media-watchdog-anti-cybercrime-law-could-signal-start-of-internet-regulation

Roman Bustria Jr.
WMPH

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Wikimedia does ask for donations. I am not sure whether that could be
> construed as asking "for favor or consideration". How would it be for a
> pornographic website that relies on voluntary donations? That is the
> worst-case comparison someone could draw.
>
> On Commons, the most frequently viewed files certainly have been, almost
> without exception, sexual media:
>
> http://stats.grok.se/commons.m/top
>
> On the other hand, compared to all the other content on Commons (and also,
> I suspect, the total number of page views), these files are a very small
> minority.
>
> I will mention two of my longstanding gripes here:
>
> 1. None of the Wikimedia projects comply with 18 USC 2257 age record
> requirements.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Age_Record_Requirement (also see
> talk page).
>
> 2. Given that Wikimedia projects contain some pretty extreme materials,
> fundraiser materials should not contain testimonials (stories) stating or
> implying that Wikimedia projects are child-safe.
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Stories2/en
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Geoff Brigham <gbrigham at wikimedia.org>wrote:
>
>> Interesting.  I saw that as a type of anti-prostitution provision since
>> it requires "for favor or consideration".
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Pierre-Carl Langlais <
>> pierre-carl.langlais at orange.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have given a quick look to the bill. It's difficult to draw definite
>>> conclusions : the signification of the text greatly depends on the present
>>> state of several fields of Philippine legislation (on libel for instance).
>>>
>>> I have nevertheless some concerns about the c1 paragraph of the fourth
>>> section defining the crime of cybersex : « The willful engagement,
>>> maintenance, control, or operation, directly or indirectly, of any
>>> lascivious exhibition of sexual organs or sexual activity, with the aid of
>>> a computer system, for favor or consideration. » I may be wrong, but the
>>> enforcement of this paragraph could potentially prevent the diffusion of
>>> explicit encyclopedic photographies and illustrations on sexual topics.
>>>
>>> Pierre-Carl Langlais aka Alexander Doria
>>>
>>> Hi Roman,
>>>
>>> I really appreciate your sharing this with us.  Is it possible you could
>>> give a brief summary to give us a gist of your concerns about the bill?
>>> Fully understand if you may be to busy to do that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello again.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a  clearer version.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Butch
>>>> WMPH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My Fellow Wikimedians,
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to ask your feedback on the new law signed by our
>>>>> President about Cybercrime whether it had a chilling effect on our local
>>>>> Wikipedia editors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Official text is available on this link:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gov.ph/downloads/2012/09sep/20120912-RA-10175-BSA.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr.
>>>>> Vice President
>>>>> Wikimedia Philippines
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> From: Seb35 <seb35wikipedia at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Internal-l] CPA : Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 -
>>>>> Philippines
>>>>> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
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>>>>> I catch the occasion to mention the open list advocacy_advisors at lists.
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>>>>> Le Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:10:00 +0200, Amir E. Aharoni <
>>>>> amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il> a écrit:
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>>>>>  Is there a reason to ask about this on the internal mailing list? You
>>>>>> can get useful feedback from the open list, too.
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