[Advocacy Advisors] [Internal-l] CPA : Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 - Philippines

Tue Oct 2 12:08:25 UTC 2012

Hello,

What does the others has to say?

Our community is supporting the move for a blackout in EN (Philippines
only), TL, and BCL Wikipedias anytime this month as the new law takes
effect tomorrow, October 3.

ブストリア · ロマン二世
Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr.

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On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am now concern that if an editor posted something that is not favorable
> to a known personality, even its supported by facts and sources, that known
> personality will just file a complaint over the Department of Justice to
> block access to the said article. Even the act is just *Prima facie.*
>
>
> http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/takedown-clause-in-cybercrime-law-very-dangerous-lawyers-say
>
>
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> http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/new-cybercrime-law-could-lead-to-warrantless-takedowns-of-websites-privacy-violations
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> http://www.interaksyon.com/article/43480/media-watchdog-anti-cybercrime-law-could-signal-start-of-internet-regulation
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>
>
> Roman Bustria Jr.
> WMPH
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Wikimedia does ask for donations. I am not sure whether that could be
>> construed as asking "for favor or consideration". How would it be for a
>> pornographic website that relies on voluntary donations? That is the
>> worst-case comparison someone could draw.
>>
>> On Commons, the most frequently viewed files certainly have been, almost
>> without exception, sexual media:
>>
>> http://stats.grok.se/commons.m/top
>>
>> On the other hand, compared to all the other content on Commons (and
>> also, I suspect, the total number of page views), these files are a very
>> small minority.
>>
>> I will mention two of my longstanding gripes here:
>>
>> 1. None of the Wikimedia projects comply with 18 USC 2257 age record
>> requirements.
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Age_Record_Requirement (also
>> see talk page).
>>
>> 2. Given that Wikimedia projects contain some pretty extreme materials,
>> fundraiser materials should not contain testimonials (stories) stating or
>> implying that Wikimedia projects are child-safe.
>>
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Stories2/en
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Geoff Brigham <gbrigham at wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.  I saw that as a type of anti-prostitution provision since
>>> it requires "for favor or consideration".
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Pierre-Carl Langlais <
>>> pierre-carl.langlais at orange.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have given a quick look to the bill. It's difficult to draw definite
>>>> conclusions : the signification of the text greatly depends on the present
>>>> state of several fields of Philippine legislation (on libel for instance).
>>>>
>>>> I have nevertheless some concerns about the c1 paragraph of the fourth
>>>> section defining the crime of cybersex : « The willful engagement,
>>>> maintenance, control, or operation, directly or indirectly, of any
>>>> lascivious exhibition of sexual organs or sexual activity, with the aid of
>>>> a computer system, for favor or consideration. » I may be wrong, but the
>>>> enforcement of this paragraph could potentially prevent the diffusion of
>>>> explicit encyclopedic photographies and illustrations on sexual topics.
>>>>
>>>> Pierre-Carl Langlais aka Alexander Doria
>>>>
>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate your sharing this with us.  Is it possible you
>>>> could give a brief summary to give us a gist of your concerns about the
>>>> bill?   Fully understand if you may be to busy to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a  clearer version.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Butch
>>>>> WMPH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Fellow Wikimedians,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would like to ask your feedback on the new law signed by our
>>>>>> President about Cybercrime whether it had a chilling effect on our local
>>>>>> Wikipedia editors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Official text is available on this link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gov.ph/downloads/2012/09sep/20120912-RA-10175-BSA.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr.
>>>>>> Vice President
>>>>>> Wikimedia Philippines
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *The future of technology is defined by change, but the destiny of
>>>>>> an organization is defined by commitment.*
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>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Seb35 <seb35wikipedia at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Internal-l] CPA : Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 -
>>>>>> Philippines
>>>>>> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
>>>>>> subscription)" <internal-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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>>>>>> I catch the occasion to mention the open list
>>>>>> advocacy_advisors at lists.**wikimedia.org<advocacy_advisors at lists.wikimedia.org>dedicated to this type of news, associated with the Meta page
>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Legal_and_Community_**Advocacy<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy>
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>>>>>> ~ Seb35 [^_^]
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>>>>>> Le Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:10:00 +0200, Amir E. Aharoni <
>>>>>> amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il> a écrit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Is there a reason to ask about this on the internal mailing list?
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>> can get useful feedback from the open list, too.
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> ブストリア · ロマン二世
> Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr.
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> *The future of technology is defined by change, but the destiny of an
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