<div>Hello, </div><div><br></div>What does the others has to say?<div><br></div><div>Our community is supporting the move for a blackout in EN (Philippines only), TL, and BCL Wikipedias anytime this month as the new law takes effect tomorrow, October 3.</div>
<div><br></div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">ブストリア · ロマン二世<br>Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><i>The future of technology is defined by change, but the destiny of an organization is defined by commitment.</i></div>
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<br>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><br></div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Roman Bustria Jr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bustrias@gmail.com" target="_blank">bustrias@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>I am now concern that if an editor posted something that is not favorable to a known personality, even its supported by facts and sources, that known personality will just file a complaint over the Department of Justice to block access to the said article. Even the act is just <em style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)">Prima facie.</em></div>
<div><br></div><a href="http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/takedown-clause-in-cybercrime-law-very-dangerous-lawyers-say" target="_blank">http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/takedown-clause-in-cybercrime-law-very-dangerous-lawyers-say</a> <div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/new-cybercrime-law-could-lead-to-warrantless-takedowns-of-websites-privacy-violations" target="_blank">http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/new-cybercrime-law-could-lead-to-warrantless-takedowns-of-websites-privacy-violations</a> </div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.interaksyon.com/article/43480/media-watchdog-anti-cybercrime-law-could-signal-start-of-internet-regulation" target="_blank">http://www.interaksyon.com/article/43480/media-watchdog-anti-cybercrime-law-could-signal-start-of-internet-regulation</a> </div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Roman Bustria Jr.</div><div>WMPH</div><div><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Andreas Kolbe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jayen466@gmail.com" target="_blank">jayen466@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all.<div><br></div><div>Wikimedia does ask for donations. I am not sure whether that could be construed as asking "for favor or consideration". How would it be for a pornographic website that relies on voluntary donations? That is the worst-case comparison someone could draw.<div>
<br></div><div>On Commons, the most frequently viewed files certainly have been, almost without exception, sexual media:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://stats.grok.se/commons.m/top" target="_blank">http://stats.grok.se/commons.m/top</a> </div>
<div><br></div><div>On the other hand, compared to all the other content on Commons (and also, I suspect, the total number of page views), these files are a very small minority.</div><div><br></div><div>I will mention two of my longstanding gripes here:</div>
<div><br></div><div>1. None of the Wikimedia projects comply with 18 USC 2257 age record requirements.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Age_Record_Requirement" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Age_Record_Requirement</a> (also see talk page).</div>
<div><br></div><div>2. Given that Wikimedia projects contain some pretty extreme materials, fundraiser materials should not contain testimonials (stories) stating or implying that Wikimedia projects are child-safe.</div>
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<br></div><div><a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Stories2/en" target="_blank">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Stories2/en</a><span><font color="#888888">
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Geoff Brigham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gbrigham@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">gbrigham@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Interesting. I saw that as a type of anti-prostitution provision since it requires <span style="font-size:12px">"for favor or consideration</span>".<div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Pierre-Carl Langlais <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pierre-carl.langlais@orange.fr" target="_blank">pierre-carl.langlais@orange.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>I have given a quick look to the bill. It's difficult to draw definite conclusions : the signification of the text greatly depends on the present state of several fields of Philippine legislation (on libel for instance).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have nevertheless some concerns about the c1 paragraph of the fourth section defining the crime of cybersex : « <span style="font-size:12px">The willful engagement, maintenance, control, or operation, directly or indirectly, of any lascivious exhibition of sexual organs or sexual activity, with the aid of a computer system, for favor or consideration. » I may be wrong, but the enforcement of this paragraph could potentially prevent the diffusion of explicit encyclopedic photographies and illustrations on sexual topics. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12px">Pierre-Carl Langlais aka Alexander Doria</span></div><br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Roman, <br><br>I really appreciate your sharing this with us. Is it possible you could give a brief summary to give us a gist of your concerns about the bill? Fully understand if you may be to busy to do that. <br>
<br> Thanks, <br><br>Geoff<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Roman Bustria Jr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bustrias@gmail.com" target="_blank">bustrias@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello again.<div>
<br></div><div>Here is a clearer version.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/" target="_blank">http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/</a> </div> <div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div>Butch</div><div>WMPH</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roman Bustria Jr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bustrias@gmail.com" target="_blank">bustrias@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>My Fellow Wikimedians,</div><div><br></div><div>We would like to ask your feedback on the new law signed by our President about Cybercrime whether it had a chilling effect on our local Wikipedia editors.</div>
<div><br> </div><div>Official text is available on this link:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.gov.ph/downloads/2012/09sep/20120912-RA-10175-BSA.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.gov.ph/downloads/2012/09sep/20120912-RA-10175-BSA.pdf</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Thank you.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div>Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr.</div><div>Vice President</div><div>Wikimedia Philippines</div><div><br></div><div><br> </div><div>
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