With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I'm still unclear with what Elee set up. Where's the public_html folder located?
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I Haven't logged in or looked or tried to see what we have at all. I'm very busy with school right now, I will get back to it soon though.
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From:"Maximilian Doerr" maximilian.doerr@gmail.com Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 16:45 Subject:[xTools] Getting the tools moved
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
I'm thinking we will need MySQL. I want to create a page/interface for configuring tools and configuring admins/moderators from a web UI to make it simple. Sure, we don't need it just yet, but we will.
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From:"Eugene Lee" leee@mit.edu Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 16:53 Subject:Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
We will also need MySQL or some kind of database for xTools' IRC bot. I was thinking about basing it around wm-bot, and am now thinking about basing it on Helpmebot v7 core instead. We'll need DB for channel configs and user rights.
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From:"Mr. Donald J. Fortier II" technical_13@yahoo.com Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 16:57 Subject:Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
I'm thinking we will need MySQL. I want to create a page/interface for configuring tools and configuring admins/moderators from a web UI to make it simple. Sure, we don't need it just yet, but we will.
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From:"Eugene Lee" leee@mit.edu Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 16:53 Subject:Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
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From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
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Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
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From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MusikAnimal Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
I have a couple minor things:
- Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]? - Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep? - The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate. - What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier. - Again, SCP is a thing. - I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10 bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements? - Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *MusikAnimal *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
1. the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file" 2. yeup. got keys? 3. yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out of desperation. 4. yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle. 5. ++ 6. sure, I'll deal in a few. 7. unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia <lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com
wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
- Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making
the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]?
- Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep?
- The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases
you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate.
- What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify
over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier.
- Again, SCP is a thing.
- I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10
bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements?
- Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF
Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *MusikAnimal *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Hold on a second. New members need to be discussed first. I have absolutely no idea who L235 is.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:05 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
1. the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file"
2. yeup. got keys?
3. yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out of desperation.
4. yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle.
5. ++
6. sure, I'll deal in a few.
7. unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
* Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]? * Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep? * The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate. * What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier. * Again, SCP is a thing. * I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10 bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements? * Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MusikAnimal Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
He only has read bits to see how we configured stuff, but no write or mod.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hold on a second. New members need to be discussed first. I have absolutely no idea who L235 is.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 6:05 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
- the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is
what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file"
yeup. got keys?
yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out
of desperation.
yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle.
++
sure, I'll deal in a few.
unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but
believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia < lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
- Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making
the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]?
- Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep?
- The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases
you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate.
- What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify
over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier.
- Again, SCP is a thing.
- I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10
bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements?
- Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF
Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *MusikAnimal *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Well fine. So the directory path is /var/www/? So xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/ is located in /var/www/ec/ ?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:24 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
He only has read bits to see how we configured stuff, but no write or mod.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Hold on a second. New members need to be discussed first. I have absolutely no idea who L235 is.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:05 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
1. the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file"
2. yeup. got keys?
3. yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out of desperation.
4. yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle.
5. ++
6. sure, I'll deal in a few.
7. unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
* Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]? * Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep? * The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate. * What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier. * Again, SCP is a thing. * I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10 bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements? * Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MusikAnimal Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
_______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Sorry, I've already SSHd in; I can delete my homedir, you can pull access, and I'll be out the door, if you want.
Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Well fine. So the directory path is /var/www/? So xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/ is located in /var/www/ec/ ?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 6:24 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
He only has read bits to see how we configured stuff, but no write or mod.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hold on a second. New members need to be discussed first. I have absolutely no idea who L235 is.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 6:05 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
- the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is
what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file"
yeup. got keys?
yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out
of desperation.
yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle.
++
sure, I'll deal in a few.
unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but
believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia < lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
- Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making
the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]?
- Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep?
- The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases
you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate.
- What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify
over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier.
- Again, SCP is a thing.
- I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10
bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements?
- Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF
Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *MusikAnimal *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Yeah, I was wondering about that too. I have nothing against L235, but don't remember it even being brought up. T13
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From:"Maximilian Doerr" maximilian.doerr@gmail.com Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 18:23 Subject:Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
Hold on a second. New members need to be discussed first. I have absolutely no idea who L235 is.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:05 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
1. the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file"
2. yeup. got keys?
3. yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out of desperation.
4. yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle.
5. ++
6. sure, I'll deal in a few.
7. unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]?Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep? The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate.What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier. Again, SCP is a thing.I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10 bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements?Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MusikAnimal Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Lee Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
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