xTools is a *suite* of tools, not just an edit counter. "Detailed edit counter" is not fitting, instead just think of it as the "xTools edit counter". There are LOTS of edit counters, not just Supercount and the one included in XTools (look at the labs directory). Naming them "simple" and "detailed" rids the authorship and originality aspect of the service.
For xTools, you can open any tab in a new window by right-clicking and selecting open in a new tab. Supercount's tabs are part of a single-page app so this is not possible there. Internally, this makes sense, as you would not want to perform the same query on every page, so put it all on one page (by contrast each tab on xTools is a different tool).
The speed of the counters is at the mercy of replication database performance and the size of the query. If you query for a user with less than 10,000 edits it will run reasonably fast. If you run the same query on a user with 50,000+ edits it's going to take considerably longer, and that's true for any edit counter. Some counters might be faster than others, but I'd guess that's purely how they construct the queries, which we can work to improve.
Max, I have a counter of my own that I've been working on for which I borrowed many of the queries from xTools. I can get those to you shortly.
On 10 August 2015 at 09:26, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Supercount:
It was and only has been under my maintenance.If you want an edit counter that displays on a single page, usexTools.
Why? What purpose would that serve. That would leave you withthe form on one tab and the results in another?
I have never seen the tool take more than 30 seconds to load.And quite frankly it never crashed during this fiasco either.
The name was given as I had intentions to make the edit countermore capable. But now that xTools exists I might as well rename it.
xTools:
The xTools team, which seems to be primarily me once again atthe moment. xTools is a bundle of tools, initially written by X!.
What pop-out cake parts? All information is on one page already.Again. Why?This tool is usually faster than supercount, when the tool isn’toverloaded.
In this case, we are preserving the name X!’s Edit CounterCyberpower678
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*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 4:34 AM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] xTools rewrite underway
The community has various uses for X-tools and user editing analysis. Also users are confused about what are X-tools and what are other tools, especially when there are perhaps several tools by different developers that do basically the same things
I believe that the developers may possibly not be fully aware of these uses and therefore may not take them all into consideration.
WE have some confusion because there are two edit counters. First and foremost there is the question of user edit counters. Some users consider these to be gimmiks or gadgets (toys) but there are situations were these are required for very serious research and they need to display in a manner that is appropriate for serious users.
*Supercount*
Who is now responsible for the maintenance of this tool?
Can it be reverted to its former presentation without the pop-out cake parts and having all the information on one page?
Can it be designed to open in a new tab?
Can it be designed to load in a few seconds instead of a few minutes?
Can it be given a name that tell us waht it does> e.g. Simple edit counter
*Analysis X-tools*
Who is now responsible for the maintenance of this tool? Or is X-tools a set of different tools?
Can it be reverted to its former presentation without the pop-out cake parts and having all the information on one page?
Cam it be designed to open in a new tab?
Can it be designed to load in a few seconds instead of a few minutes?
Can it be given a name that tell us waht it does e.g. Detailed edit counter
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On 10 Aug 2015, at 10:37, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys. I’ve been working on fashioning up the new file and classes for a more organized and less dependent code structure.
T13, do you think you can dig through the edit counter and articleinfo codes and fetch me all the queries each use to gather the needed information on both the database and API?
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