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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details (Minh Nguyen)
2. Fwd: About the CheckUser position ( Tr?n V?nh T?n )
3. Fwd: About the CheckUser position ( Tr?n V?nh T?n )
4. Ki?m tra ch?nh t? ti?ng Vi?t trong Firefox (Minh Nguyen)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:50:18 -0800
From: Minh Nguyen <mxn@zoomtown.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikivi-l] Returned mail: see transcript for details
To: Wikipedia tieng Viet <wikivi-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <47CF5BEA.9010309@zoomtown.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Xin d? b?t c? l? do n?o, ??ng m? l?n t?p tin .zip ???c g?n v?o nh?ng th?
?i?n t? m? v?a ???c g?i cho danh s?ch th? n?y. ??y l? nh?ng th? ?i?n t?
ch?a virus!

Xin du bat cu ly do nao, ddung mo len tap tin .zip dduoc gan vao nhung
thu ddien tu ma vua dduoc gui cho danh sach thu nay. Dday la nhung thu
dien tu chua virus!

Please do not, under any circumstances, open any of the .zip files that
were attached in recent e-mails to this mailing list. These messages
contain viruses!

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Minh Nguyen <mxn@zoomtown.com>
AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@1ec5.org; Blog: http://notes.1ec5.org/

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:36:04 +0700
From: " Tr?n V?nh T?n " <vinhtantran@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikivi-l] Fwd: About the CheckUser position
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From: Blnguyen <blnguyen2230@gmail.com>
Date: 15-04-2008 10:00
Subject: Re: About the CheckUser position
To: Vinhtantran <vinhtantran@gmail.com>

Hi

Yes it would work

If you click checkuser on a vandal account and you can explicitly see the IP
addresses being used, so you can lock the IP directly, rather than just
relying on an autoblock on the vandal's account

If it is a dynamic IP address it will give a lot of similar numbers like
59.91.254.10, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.224, 59.91.254.124, and
so forth

Then you can go and directly block 59.91.254.0/24 and it will shut down the
whole range, and click the "prevent account creation" and do not select
"anon only".

If you think some registered user is logging out and anonymously causing
trouble, then CU the IP range and then use "get users" on the IP range.

With #2, the autoblock only blocks their one IP so they can log out from
59.91.254.10 and when they reboot their internet, it will send them to
another IP like 59.91.254.32 and that won't be autoblocked so they can carry
on. Explicitly using CU to dig up their IP allows you to explicitly block
the whole rane to stop this.

The CU access request form is here

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions

Thanks

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Vinhtantran <vinhtantran@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Blnguyen,
>
> vi.wiki started to need CheckUser's position now. Can you answer some
> questions about checking user?
>
> 1. Vietnam is using dynamic IP address, and many members of vi.wiki are
> from Vietnam, can CheckUser check if they're changing IP and log in?
> 2. There are many vandalisms now, all of them start from 1 or 2 people.
> Even when we block that user, we also blocked creating accounts and IP
> they're using, but they still can. Can you give us some advices? Can
> CheckUser solve that?
>
> I hope we can chat together, via any IM you'd like, maybe Yahoo!
> Messenger, GTalk, or even IRC Channel. Thanks in advance,
>
> T?n.
>

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Tr?n V?nh T?n
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:38:25 +0700
From: " Tr?n V?nh T?n " <vinhtantran@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikivi-l] Fwd: About the CheckUser position
To: wikivi-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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From: Blnguyen
Date: 15-04-2008 10:00
Subject: Re: About the CheckUser position
To: Vinhtantran <vinhtantran@gmail.com>

Hi

Yes it would work

If you click checkuser on a vandal account and you can explicitly see the IP
addresses being used, so you can lock the IP directly, rather than just
relying on an autoblock on the vandal's account

If it is a dynamic IP address it will give a lot of similar numbers like
59.91.254.10, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.224, 59.91.254.124, and
so forth

Then you can go and directly block 59.91.254.0/24 and it will shut down the
whole range, and click the "prevent account creation" and do not select
"anon only".

If you think some registered user is logging out and anonymously causing
trouble, then CU the IP range and then use "get users" on the IP range.

With #2, the autoblock only blocks their one IP so they can log out from
59.91.254.10 and when they reboot their internet, it will send them to
another IP like 59.91.254.32 and that won't be autoblocked so they can carry
on. Explicitly using CU to dig up their IP allows you to explicitly block
the whole rane to stop this.

The CU access request form is here

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions

Thanks

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Vinhtantran <vinhtantran@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Blnguyen,
>
> vi.wiki started to need CheckUser's position now. Can you answer some
> questions about checking user?
>
> 1. Vietnam is using dynamic IP address, and many members of vi.wiki are
> from Vietnam, can CheckUser check if they're changing IP and log in?
> 2. There are many vandalisms now, all of them start from 1 or 2 people.
> Even when we block that user, we also blocked creating accounts and IP
> they're using, but they still can. Can you give us some advices? Can
> CheckUser solve that?
>
> I hope we can chat together, via any IM you'd like, maybe Yahoo!
> Messenger, GTalk, or even IRC Channel. Thanks in advance,
>
> T?n.
>

--
Tr?n V?nh T?n
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:28:03 -0700
From: Minh Nguyen <mxn@zoomtown.com>
Subject: [Wikivi-l] Ki?m tra ch?nh t? ti?ng Vi?t trong Firefox
To: Vietnamese Wikipedia <wikivi-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <48479583.4040108@zoomtown.com>
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Ch?o c?c b?n,

T?i v?a vi?t m?t ph?n m? r?ng (/extension/) cho Firefox
<http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/> ?? ki?m tra ch?nh t? ti?ng Vi?t.
N? cung c?p hai b? t? ?i?n ki?m tra ch?nh t?: m?t c?i b? d?u ki?u m?i
(vd: "xo?"), v? c?i kia b? d?u ki?u c? ("x?a").

N? ch?y trong c?c phi?n b?n g?n ??y v? s?p t?i c?a Firefox, c?ng nh?
ch??ng tr?nh e-mail Thunderbird
<http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/>. Sau khi c?i ??t ph?n m?
r?ng n?y, h?y nh?n chu?t ph?i v?o h?p v?n b?n n?o, b?t l?n "Check
Spelling", v? ch?n ho?c "Vietnamese (New)" ho?c "Vietnamese (Old)". L?u
? r?ng ph?n m? r?ng n?y cung c?p c?c g?i ? kh?ng t?t l?m trong Firefox 2
(nh?t l? khi vi?t hoa), nh?ng b?n c? th? t?i xu?ng beta c?a Firefox 3
<http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html> ?? s? d?ng b? ki?m
tra ch?nh t? t?t h?n.

B?n c? th? c?i ??t ph?n m? r?ng mi?n ph? t?i website ph?n m? r?ng ch?nh
th?c c?a Mozilla <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7479>
(c?n ??ng nh?p), hay t?i n? xu?ng t?i trang ch? c?a ph?n m? r?ng
<http://code.google.com/p/hunspell-spellcheck-vi/downloads/detail?name=vi_dictionary_1.0.0.24.xpi>.
T?i g?i th?ng b?o n?y cho danh s?ch Wikipedia ti?ng Vi?t ?? xin c?c b?n
??a ? ki?n: l? do b?n c?n ??ng nh?p t?i trang Mozilla l? ph?n m? r?ng
n?y v?n c?n trong "ch? th?" c?a Mozilla. Sau khi c?i ??t n?, xin t?n m?t
ch?t th? gi? ?? chia s? ? ki?n t?i ??y
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7479>. Mozilla kh?ng
ch?u tr?nh b?y ph?n m? r?ng n?y "c?ng khai" cho ??n khi c? ?? ng??i c?i
??t v? cho ? ki?n v? n?. N?u b?n g?p t? ??ng n?o m? ph?n m? r?ng cho l?
sai, xin h?y nh?n tin t?i ??y
<http://code.google.com/p/hunspell-spellcheck-vi/wiki/Errata>.

?? th? b? ki?m tra ch?nh t?, b?n c? th? th? s?a ??i m?t b?i vi?t t?i
Wikipedia ti?ng Vi?t v? xem b?i ?? c? ??ng ch?nh t? hay kh?ng.

C?m ?n cho m?i ng??i cho ? ki?n, v? mong l? ph?n m? r?ng n?y c? th? gi?p
nh?ng ng??i s?a ??i Wikipedia th??ng xuy?n. Th?n m?n.

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Minh Nguyen <mxn@zoomtown.com>
AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@1ec5.org; Blog: http://notes.1ec5.org/

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