Is this list for only Wikipedia?
Any way, I annouce to those interessed (possibly only Minh) that I have contacted Laurent Bouvier (http://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Th%C3%A0nh_vi%C3%AAn:Laurent_Bouvier), who transfered the whole dictionary of Hồ Ngọc Đức (http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~duc/Dict/index.html) into Wiktionnaire (french Wiktionary) (apparently Hồ Ngọc Đức agreed to release his dictionary in GFDL, by an email conversation to the guys at Wiktionnaire), and we are going to do the same thing to Wiktionary.
If you want to help out, join the discussion at http://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn_Th%C3%A0nh_vi%C3%AAn... especially Minh, who is more experienced than me with Wiktionary, to answer the tough questions of Bouvier.
Thank you for reading this, Trung
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 23:37:16 -0700 From: mxn@zoomtown.com To: wikivi-l@mail.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikivi-l] [Fwd: Template HTML fixups coming this week]
Tôi không biết chúng ta có tiêu bản nào có thể bị ảnh hưởng của thay đổi này hay không, nhưng nếu bạn gặp tiêu bản nào mà chỉ được sử dụng để bắt đầu hay kết thúc bảng dùng cú pháp HTML, xin tạm đổi nó thành cú pháp wiki tại [[Trợ giúp:Tạo bảng]].
I don't know if we have any templates that would be affected by this change, but if you happen to encounter any templates that open tables using the HTML syntax but don't close them (or vice-versa), please convert them to the wiki syntax at [[Trợ giúp:Tạo bảng]] for now.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Template HTML fixups coming this week Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:48:26 -0700 From: Brion Vibber brion-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l-AeOJrEpdGNeGglJvpFV4uA@public.gmane.org CC: English Wikipedia wikien-l-g2DCOkC13y2GglJvpFV4uA@public.gmane.org, Wikimedia developers wikitech-l-AeOJrEpdGNeGglJvpFV4uA@public.gmane.org Newsgroups: gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical,gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english
Just a heads-up, folks:
Later this week I'm going to be installing a fix for some longstanding bugs with HTML in wiki pages. One of the issues is a difference in rendering of templates that improperly nest HTML tags, which caused certain badly-written templates to render in one way on Wikipedia but wildly broken on most other wikis.
(Don't forget that an important part of what Wikipedia & its sister projects are about is making information sharable and reusable. If the code breaks when copied to another site, that's Bad.)
Once the fix is in, templates should render about the same on Wikipedia and other wikis where the "HTML Tidy" plugin isn't being used. The bad news is that some of these templates will be broken; so it would be great if we can make sure they get cleaned up.
Problem templates are mostly those which start an HTML tag in one template, then finish it in another. For instance if {{table-header}} contains a
<table>, and then the table rows and final </table> are in another template entirely. These have always broken on regular MediaWiki -- the template is required to close its own tags -- though they sometimes appeared to work on Wikipedia due to bugs with our HTML handling when Tidy is enabled.
I've done some automated checks on templates on en.wikipedia.org to make a list of likely problem candidates:
http://leuksman.com/misc/templates/html-table-start.txt http://leuksman.com/misc/templates/html-table-end.txt http://leuksman.com/misc/templates/html-table-row.txt
If you've got a template that you're not sure if it will work, try copying it to my test wiki at http://test.leuksman.com/ . This has the fix installed with the corrected behavior, so you can see about how it will render on Wikipedia next week.
Please make sure this information is disseminated to the various other language and project wikis people are working on; I don't want to hear "waah! all my templates broke and no one told me!" next week. :)
For the moment the same kind of construct with wiki tables ({| ... |}) will still work, but note that some time in the future we're going to have to look at 'fixing' that too. (This might require some enhancements to how templates work to make it easier to fill in long tables.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
-- Minh Nguyen mxn@zoomtown.com AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/
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