I undesrtand your point.
However:
>What's to stop the author of a copyright-violating
> page from regularly going in and making "dummy edits", preventing the
> page from ever "expiring"?
The copyright-violating message clearly says that all user *must* discuss and reach a consensus before editing.
The {{Đang dịch 2}} will worth what Danny B. is asking for; but there are already other templates that can take benefit from {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}. They are *automatic* image tag templates: when user upload "unkown"/"somewebsite" image, they will be expired. That's the original drive for me to ask for {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} ({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} is not applicable here).
Trung.
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> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:48:42 -0700
> From: mxn(a)zoomtown.com
> To: wikivi-l(a)wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikivi-l] [Fwd: [Bug 6092] add {{revisiontime:}}/{{lastrevision:}} colon/parser function or {{REVISIONtimeformat|<pagename>}} functionality to current magic words]
>
> I suppose it works, but it doesn't really solve our problem with the
> expiring templates. What's to stop the author of a copyright-violating
> page from regularly going in and making "dummy edits", preventing the
> page from ever "expiring"? Or how about templates like {{Đang dịch 2}},
> where we fully expect that the page will be revised after the tag is
> added, but we might not want the timestamp to change when that happens?
> (I might, for example, go in and add a {{Thời gian sống}} tag, but that
> doesn't mean the translation is any closer to being finished.)
>
> We're left with the same problem we began with: whether we use
> {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} or {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}, we need some way of
> substituting the timestamp *only* when the template is being included,
> not when the template is being edited. That's why we have the current
> {{Đang dịch 2}} / {{Đang dịch 2 (nguồn)}} setup, right? We don't
> *really* want the last revision date; we want the date of the revision
> where we tagged the page. This is why Danny B. is suggesting a new
> "revisiontime" magic word.
>
> Tran The Trung wrote:
> > I have tested it. It works: we got the last revision date of the page that includes the template.
> >
> > Trung
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:27:34 -0700
> >> From: mxn(a)zoomtown.com
> >> To: wikivi-l(a)wikimedia.org
> >> Subject: [Wikivi-l] [Fwd: [Bug 6092] add {{revisiontime:}}/{{lastrevision:}} colon/parser function or {{REVISIONtimeformat|<pagename>}} functionality to current magic words]
> >>
> >> Oh, I forgot, this is the same problem we've been having: magic words
> >> aren't enough. We need a way to get the last revision date of the page
> >> that included the template, not the last revision date of the template
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com>
> >> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/
> >>
> --
> Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com>
> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/
>
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