https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct in my view is the lowest common denominator not enough and certainly not optimum
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alastair Dickson adickson@allyd.co.uk wrote:
Interesting. Apologies for probably going over old ground as a latecomer, but I had assumed that Wikispore was sufficiently proximate to Mediawiki that the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct] would have to apply?
In an exceptional situation, if someone complained to the Foundation about something that had happened in the Wikispore space, wouldn't they see it in their remit to take action? If that is so, shouldn't at least the "Unacceptable behaviour" provisions of the Mediawiki Code be explicitly bound in? (Though also taking Denny's point about the positives of that Berlin Code.)
On 16/07/2020 07:16, Željko Blaće wrote:
Maybe we can bring some of the unfinished discussions like CoC to this Sunday?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:19 AM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
+1 to the berlin COC.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:14 AM Željko Blaće zblace@mi2.hr wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:15 AM Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
I have checked with a few people, and here are some concerns regarding Wikispore, which, I am sure, can be easily resolved. I am happy to help with the first three if I sense consensus on these topics.
- Privacy policy
- Terms of use
- Code of Conduct
Thank you Denny for bringing this up! Much appreciated and important now.
I am sure we'll easily agree on the first two, just taking the respective policies from the other WMF Wikis and link them accordingly.
Regarding 3), mediawiki.org has a CoC, meta does not, and I would really like us to start Spores per default with a CoC. What are your thoughts?
Though I think being explicit about #Unacceptable_behavior https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct#Unacceptable_behavior I find it super-important to have consensus also on #3-expected-behavior ! My preferences here are with https://BerlinCodeOfConduct.org/ that originated from https://pdxruby.org/CONDUCT#3-expected-behavior
Personally I find most of the older projects often unsupportive and even made toxic for newbies to join due to 'legal' bot-like behavior or passive agressive of older (highly patronizing and teritorial) admins... ...as the project matures this should be monitored for and suppressed, but ideally also discouraged from the start by Expected_Behavior policy.
Best Z
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