It doesn't matter where the money goes, everyone benefits and there was a period where the WMF was doing a lot of work in India without fundraising there. Its all relative Australia was contributing over 2m per year(highest per capita of anywhere at the time) yet there was nothing being spent in Australia.  

The issue is the messaging requesting donations should be honest. At least two of those statements are very much questionable, and at the same time we shouldn't be sending multiple requests close enough to each other that people are complaining which means many others are just sending emails to spam which become permanent filters.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 23:33, Andreas Kolbe <> wrote:

I am happy to give you the TL;DR version: 

As best I can make out, the WMF's average salary cost per employee is now about $200,000. 

More could be said, of course:

– The WMF had already exceeded its revenue goals for the 2021/2022 fiscal year by the end of March, bringing in over $150 million in the first three quarters[1] (total expenses last year were $107 million).

– Including the endowment, I estimate the WMF now has about $400 million in assets (almost all in cash and investments). 

– In India, past donors are reporting being inundated with daily WMF emails telling them money is needed to keep Wikipedia online, independent, ad-free and thriving.[1]

– Internet hosting costs are $2.4 million per year, and Erik Möller thought in 2013 the Wikimedia mission was sustainable on $10M+/year.

– Very little of Wikimedia's money actually goes to India (0.64 million in 2020 for all of South Asia, per Form 990).[3]


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:46 PM Dan Garry (Deskana) <> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 23:25, Andreas Kolbe <> wrote:
If you've spotted an error in my reasoning or think you can provide a better estimate, please do so and share your working. Many eyes make all bugs shallow.

My feedback is that you've put so many walls of text and numbers on this mailing list, that whatever point you're attempting to make is buried underneath it.

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