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I think it's better you advance your visa...
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And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the minimum time that i need to apply Mardetanha
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:59 +0300
From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can be denied.
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Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
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wikimediabr-l@lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
We also have wikipt@lists.wikimedia.org , lista@wikimedia.pt and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
Hello everyone,
As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.
But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.
U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.
Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.
It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.
What do you think?
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From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@gmail.com>
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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.
I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.
That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting
scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.
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Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania
scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.
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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> (+55) 85 88393509
> 30440865
> *
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mateus.nobre@live.co.uk
> To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
>
> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
>
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> (+55) 85 88393509
> 30440865
> *
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
> From: berialima@gmail.com
> To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> wikimediabr-l@lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
>
> We also have wikipt@lists.wikimedia.org , lista@wikimedia.pt and
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada<http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada>(if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what
> else they can be ;) )
> _____
> *B?ria Lima*
> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this
> someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some
> countries is really hard....
>
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
>
> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> (+55) 85 88393509
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> *
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>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
> From: berialima@gmail.com
>
> To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
> result for your application.
> _____
> *B?ria Lima*
> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
> Yeah.
>
> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
> but I wanna clarify to you.
>
> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
> over need a visa to enter in.
>
> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best
> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops :D)
> * and WMF contacted me six months before.
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
> appeal, and would take more two months.
>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
> really isn't easy.
>
> What do you think?
>
> _____________________
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> 30440865
> *
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