Heiya Mark, working with certs via letsencrypt is initially nearly as painful as creating CSRs and installing certs we classic way - just different. I also banged my head on the table later last year on a couple of occasions. Probably mostly depending on what version of the bot used gets shipped with your OS. Things can indeed be a bit tricky with older versions. So you have all my understanding. Still after the process is established you will not like to lack letsencrypt at all. They really have changed the world. Which is good! What's a week when knowing this? Nothing. Cheers Karsten Am 01.10.2017 um 23:39 schrieb Mark A. Hershberger: