Hey folks!
I have been promising this discussion for a whole month. Rather than add a "ps I still haven't had this conversation" note to this week's progress report to the mailing list I'm going to start this thread. :)
First I would like to thank all of you for the help you have provided to the project so far. You may or may not see your interactions with Srishti and I on irc, email, phabricator, or gerrit as having been meaningful, but they were! Even beyond the tangible support, knowing that we can reach out to each of you individually or as a group has helped to alleviate stress about making many decisions.
I do however feel badly that I have not yet found ways to have each of you be more meaningfully involved in shaping the project on a week to week basis. The majority of you are here to offer advice on the user facing aspects of the project, and although we are making a lot of progress we really are just starting to get to these important UI and workflow components. Our roadmap for the rest of this quarter (January-March 2021) includes edit screens and search screens that I hope many of you will have opinions about. Patrolling workflows will be work that we take up in the April-June quarter along with finalizing production deployment plans and getting sign off from the Foundation's Security and SRE groups on the project.
I would really like to see all of you stay and get to these upcoming milestones with us. That being said, I also want to give all of you a chance to step back and focus on other things if this does not feel like a good use of your time.
What are your feelings? Are you ready to continue this experiment for another 5 months until we reach launch? Do you have any requests for changes that would help you feel more engaged and useful in your advisory role?
Please feel free to reply on list or only to me as you feel is appropriate. Radical transparency is fun, but I also know that sharing feelings in a publicly logged mailing list can be intimidating at times.
Bryan
Speaking only for myself, I am more than happy to continue to be available to this project for feedback and advice. I don't mind at all that the need for our support is limited at this point, or that it's likely to increase somewhat in the coming months. Even at peak engagement, I feel it's something that will make reasonable demands on my time and knowledge. I guess I just figure that when I agree to participate as an advisor to a project that will have its main activity completed within a year or so, I'm agreed to stick it out for the duration barring unforeseen circumstances.
Risker/Anne
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:27, Bryan Davis bd808@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey folks!
I have been promising this discussion for a whole month. Rather than add a "ps I still haven't had this conversation" note to this week's progress report to the mailing list I'm going to start this thread. :)
First I would like to thank all of you for the help you have provided to the project so far. You may or may not see your interactions with Srishti and I on irc, email, phabricator, or gerrit as having been meaningful, but they were! Even beyond the tangible support, knowing that we can reach out to each of you individually or as a group has helped to alleviate stress about making many decisions.
I do however feel badly that I have not yet found ways to have each of you be more meaningfully involved in shaping the project on a week to week basis. The majority of you are here to offer advice on the user facing aspects of the project, and although we are making a lot of progress we really are just starting to get to these important UI and workflow components. Our roadmap for the rest of this quarter (January-March 2021) includes edit screens and search screens that I hope many of you will have opinions about. Patrolling workflows will be work that we take up in the April-June quarter along with finalizing production deployment plans and getting sign off from the Foundation's Security and SRE groups on the project.
I would really like to see all of you stay and get to these upcoming milestones with us. That being said, I also want to give all of you a chance to step back and focus on other things if this does not feel like a good use of your time.
What are your feelings? Are you ready to continue this experiment for another 5 months until we reach launch? Do you have any requests for changes that would help you feel more engaged and useful in your advisory role?
Please feel free to reply on list or only to me as you feel is appropriate. Radical transparency is fun, but I also know that sharing feelings in a publicly logged mailing list can be intimidating at times.
Bryan
Bryan Davis Technical Engagement Wikimedia Foundation Principal Software Engineer Boise, ID USA [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] irc: bd808
Toolhub-dev mailing list Toolhub-dev@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolhub-dev
I've been expecting the work to circle back, I'm happy to help with the front-end phase still.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:01 PM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking only for myself, I am more than happy to continue to be available to this project for feedback and advice. I don't mind at all that the need for our support is limited at this point, or that it's likely to increase somewhat in the coming months. Even at peak engagement, I feel it's something that will make reasonable demands on my time and knowledge. I guess I just figure that when I agree to participate as an advisor to a project that will have its main activity completed within a year or so, I'm agreed to stick it out for the duration barring unforeseen circumstances.
Risker/Anne
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:27, Bryan Davis bd808@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey folks!
I have been promising this discussion for a whole month. Rather than add a "ps I still haven't had this conversation" note to this week's progress report to the mailing list I'm going to start this thread. :)
First I would like to thank all of you for the help you have provided to the project so far. You may or may not see your interactions with Srishti and I on irc, email, phabricator, or gerrit as having been meaningful, but they were! Even beyond the tangible support, knowing that we can reach out to each of you individually or as a group has helped to alleviate stress about making many decisions.
I do however feel badly that I have not yet found ways to have each of you be more meaningfully involved in shaping the project on a week to week basis. The majority of you are here to offer advice on the user facing aspects of the project, and although we are making a lot of progress we really are just starting to get to these important UI and workflow components. Our roadmap for the rest of this quarter (January-March 2021) includes edit screens and search screens that I hope many of you will have opinions about. Patrolling workflows will be work that we take up in the April-June quarter along with finalizing production deployment plans and getting sign off from the Foundation's Security and SRE groups on the project.
I would really like to see all of you stay and get to these upcoming milestones with us. That being said, I also want to give all of you a chance to step back and focus on other things if this does not feel like a good use of your time.
What are your feelings? Are you ready to continue this experiment for another 5 months until we reach launch? Do you have any requests for changes that would help you feel more engaged and useful in your advisory role?
Please feel free to reply on list or only to me as you feel is appropriate. Radical transparency is fun, but I also know that sharing feelings in a publicly logged mailing list can be intimidating at times.
Bryan
Bryan Davis Technical Engagement Wikimedia Foundation Principal Software Engineer Boise, ID USA [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] irc: bd808
Toolhub-dev mailing list Toolhub-dev@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolhub-dev
Toolhub-dev mailing list Toolhub-dev@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolhub-dev
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