(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
as I summarized two months ago https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's Article for Improvement" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit improve articles from this community-curated list.
User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... ) and already posted some ideas at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas.
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Thanks, Tilman for the background! I like the idea of posting about articles that need attention. Let's do it!
There does seem to be some overlap between this list and the meta wiki, as Ed noted in the thread Tilman shared:
*because few people besides Matthew and myself were checking* *their Meta watchlist often enough, this mailing list proved to be a* *much more reliable venue for people to post SM ideas for review and* *get a timely response.*
My take is that people can still use the meta wiki and I'm happy to swing by it, but we may need to send stuff around this list anyway for a LGTM and to do a little air-traffic controlling to prevent conflicts and traffic jams.
Should we tell people on Twitter and Facebook that they can subscribe to this list? If so, should we say:
T: Want to give input on what and how we tweet? Sign up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
FB: Want to give input on what and how we post on Facebook? You can give feedback here, or take part by signing up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
as I summarized two months ago https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's Article for Improvement" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit improve articles from this community-curated list.
User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... ) and already posted some ideas at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas.
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
I'm not sure it's a great idea to post this to our socials. Seems to me like we'd be opening the list (which is public) to a lot of spam. But maybe I'm just being too cautious.
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 15:48, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks, Tilman for the background! I like the idea of posting about articles that need attention. Let's do it!
There does seem to be some overlap between this list and the meta wiki, as Ed noted in the thread Tilman shared:
*because few people besides Matthew and myself were checking* *their Meta watchlist often enough, this mailing list proved to be a* *much more reliable venue for people to post SM ideas for review and* *get a timely response.*
My take is that people can still use the meta wiki and I'm happy to swing by it, but we may need to send stuff around this list anyway for a LGTM and to do a little air-traffic controlling to prevent conflicts and traffic jams.
Should we tell people on Twitter and Facebook that they can subscribe to this list? If so, should we say:
T: Want to give input on what and how we tweet? Sign up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
FB: Want to give input on what and how we post on Facebook? You can give feedback here, or take part by signing up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
as I summarized two months ago https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's Article for Improvement" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit improve articles from this community-curated list.
User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... ) and already posted some ideas at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas.
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Excellent point, Joe. Question: I went to the links posted on the meta wiki as suggestions for tweets for articles to be improved, but the links take you to a page asking you to create said article. Would that be strange, asking people to improve an article that doesn't exist yet? Or am I seeing this https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Serneholt&action=edit&redlink=1 wrong? I thought these tweets were to encourage people who were just getting their feet wet editing.
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not sure it's a great idea to post this to our socials. Seems to me like we'd be opening the list (which is public) to a lot of spam. But maybe I'm just being too cautious.
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 15:48, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks, Tilman for the background! I like the idea of posting about articles that need attention. Let's do it!
There does seem to be some overlap between this list and the meta wiki, as Ed noted in the thread Tilman shared:
*because few people besides Matthew and myself were checking* *their Meta watchlist often enough, this mailing list proved to be a* *much more reliable venue for people to post SM ideas for review and* *get a timely response.*
My take is that people can still use the meta wiki and I'm happy to swing by it, but we may need to send stuff around this list anyway for a LGTM and to do a little air-traffic controlling to prevent conflicts and traffic jams.
Should we tell people on Twitter and Facebook that they can subscribe to this list? If so, should we say:
T: Want to give input on what and how we tweet? Sign up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
FB: Want to give input on what and how we post on Facebook? You can give feedback here, or take part by signing up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
as I summarized two months ago https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's Article for Improvement" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit improve articles from this community-curated list.
User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... ) and already posted some ideas at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas.
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Intern [remote] m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
That link leads to an "article" on Meta Wiki (when it should lead you to one on Wikipedia). You need, instead of [[Article]], use [[w:Article|Article]] to force the redirect to Wikipedia. :)
It's w: for Wikipedia, s: for Wikisource, c: for Commons, wikt: for Wiktionary, etc. Country codes can be used as well/instead ([[:ko:s:Foo]] for the Korean Wikisource, [[:de:Bar]] for the German Wikipedia, etc). You need that initial colon to prevent the VisualEditor treating the link as an interwiki thing... that's a whole other story though ;)
Hopefully that makes sense :)
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 17:22, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
Excellent point, Joe. Question: I went to the links posted on the meta wiki as suggestions for tweets for articles to be improved, but the links take you to a page asking you to create said article. Would that be strange, asking people to improve an article that doesn't exist yet? Or am I seeing this https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Serneholt&action=edit&redlink=1 wrong? I thought these tweets were to encourage people who were just getting their feet wet editing.
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Joe Sutherland <jsutherland@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I'm not sure it's a great idea to post this to our socials. Seems to me like we'd be opening the list (which is public) to a lot of spam. But maybe I'm just being too cautious.
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 15:48, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks, Tilman for the background! I like the idea of posting about articles that need attention. Let's do it!
There does seem to be some overlap between this list and the meta wiki, as Ed noted in the thread Tilman shared:
*because few people besides Matthew and myself were checking* *their Meta watchlist often enough, this mailing list proved to be a* *much more reliable venue for people to post SM ideas for review and* *get a timely response.*
My take is that people can still use the meta wiki and I'm happy to swing by it, but we may need to send stuff around this list anyway for a LGTM and to do a little air-traffic controlling to prevent conflicts and traffic jams.
Should we tell people on Twitter and Facebook that they can subscribe to this list? If so, should we say:
T: Want to give input on what and how we tweet? Sign up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
FB: Want to give input on what and how we post on Facebook? You can give feedback here, or take part by signing up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman <asherman@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
as I summarized two months ago https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's Article for Improvement" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit improve articles from this community-curated list.
User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... ) and already posted some ideas at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas.
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Intern [remote] m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
I'm reliably informed/chastised that it's "language codes", not "country codes". ;)
Joe
On 27 October 2015 at 02:17, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
That link leads to an "article" on Meta Wiki (when it should lead you to one on Wikipedia). You need, instead of [[Article]], use [[w:Article|Article]] to force the redirect to Wikipedia. :)
It's w: for Wikipedia, s: for Wikisource, c: for Commons, wikt: for Wiktionary, etc. Country codes can be used as well/instead ([[:ko:s:Foo]] for the Korean Wikisource, [[:de:Bar]] for the German Wikipedia, etc). You need that initial colon to prevent the VisualEditor treating the link as an interwiki thing... that's a whole other story though ;)
Hopefully that makes sense :)
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 17:22, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
Excellent point, Joe. Question: I went to the links posted on the meta wiki as suggestions for tweets for articles to be improved, but the links take you to a page asking you to create said article. Would that be strange, asking people to improve an article that doesn't exist yet? Or am I seeing this https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Serneholt&action=edit&redlink=1 wrong? I thought these tweets were to encourage people who were just getting their feet wet editing.
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Joe Sutherland < jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I'm not sure it's a great idea to post this to our socials. Seems to me like we'd be opening the list (which is public) to a lot of spam. But maybe I'm just being too cautious.
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 15:48, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks, Tilman for the background! I like the idea of posting about articles that need attention. Let's do it!
There does seem to be some overlap between this list and the meta wiki, as Ed noted in the thread Tilman shared:
*because few people besides Matthew and myself were checking* *their Meta watchlist often enough, this mailing list proved to be a* *much more reliable venue for people to post SM ideas for review and* *get a timely response.*
My take is that people can still use the meta wiki and I'm happy to swing by it, but we may need to send stuff around this list anyway for a LGTM and to do a little air-traffic controlling to prevent conflicts and traffic jams.
Should we tell people on Twitter and Facebook that they can subscribe to this list? If so, should we say:
T: Want to give input on what and how we tweet? Sign up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
FB: Want to give input on what and how we post on Facebook? You can give feedback here, or take part by signing up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Jeff Elder Digital communications manager Wikimedia Foundation 704-650-4130 @jeffelder https://twitter.com/JeffElder @wikipedia https://twitter.com/wikipedia The Wikimedia blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman < asherman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
> Hi, > > as I summarized two months ago > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on > this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's > Article for Improvement" > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement > team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit > improve articles from this community-curated list. > > User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... > ) and already posted some ideas at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm > passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki > pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how > to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but > perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas. > > -- > Tilman Bayer > Senior Analyst > Wikimedia Foundation > IRC (Freenode): HaeB > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Intern [remote] m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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I didn't bother fixing those up because if those statuses were posted to social media, the links wouldn't work anyway. And it gave across the general idea. :)
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
That link leads to an "article" on Meta Wiki (when it should lead you to one on Wikipedia). You need, instead of [[Article]], use [[w:Article|Article]] to force the redirect to Wikipedia. :)
It's w: for Wikipedia, s: for Wikisource, c: for Commons, wikt: for Wiktionary, etc. Country codes can be used as well/instead ([[:ko:s:Foo]] for the Korean Wikisource, [[:de:Bar]] for the German Wikipedia, etc). You need that initial colon to prevent the VisualEditor treating the link as an interwiki thing... that's a whole other story though ;)
Hopefully that makes sense :)
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 17:22, Jeff Elder <jelder@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jelder@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
Excellent point, Joe. Question: I went to the links posted on the meta wiki as suggestions for tweets for articles to be improved, but the links take you to a page asking you to create said article. Would that be strange, asking people to improve an article that doesn't exist yet? Or am I seeing this https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Serneholt&action=edit&redlink=1 wrong? I thought these tweets were to encourage people who were just getting their feet wet editing.
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Joe Sutherland < jsutherland@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jsutherland@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
I'm not sure it's a great idea to post this to our socials. Seems to me like we'd be opening the list (which is public) to a lot of spam. But maybe I'm just being too cautious.
Joe
On 26 October 2015 at 15:48, Jeff Elder <jelder@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jelder@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
Thanks, Tilman for the background! I like the idea of posting about articles that need attention. Let's do it!
There does seem to be some overlap between this list and the meta wiki, as Ed noted in the thread Tilman shared:
*because few people besides Matthew and myself were checking* *their Meta watchlist often enough, this mailing list proved to be a* *much more reliable venue for people to post SM ideas for review and* *get a timely response.*
My take is that people can still use the meta wiki and I'm happy to swing by it, but we may need to send stuff around this list anyway for a LGTM and to do a little air-traffic controlling to prevent conflicts and traffic jams.
Should we tell people on Twitter and Facebook that they can subscribe to this list? If so, should we say:
T: Want to give input on what and how we tweet? Sign up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
FB: Want to give input on what and how we post on Facebook? You can give feedback here, or take part by signing up for our social media email list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tilman Bayer <tbayer@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tbayer@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
(splitting this off into a new thread, as it's a separate topic from TAFI)
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Sherman < asherman@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','asherman@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
I remember Ed, Joe, Michael, and I sat down to clean that page up back in July (archive old information, add useful links for content).
I have thought about the idea of utilizing this page more. We could asking for social content from the whole movement like we do for blog posts ( maybe even translations ;) ).
Of course we are already asking for (and getting) social content from the whole movement with this list. See also the list description at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media . That said, some community members might prefer posting on a wiki.
As a reminder, in August there was already some discussion about reviving the Meta page (in the same thread); here is my takeaway from that on why the parallel wiki/mailing list process didn't quite work out back in 2013/14 and what might be required to make it work: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003211.html
It could help with organization and preparation of content.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tilman Bayer <tbayer@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tbayer@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
> Hi, > > as I summarized two months ago > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/social-media/2015-August/003213.html on > this list in another context, back in 2013/14 we collaborated with the "Today's > Article for Improvement" > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement > team on the English Wikipedia, posting social media invitations to edit > improve articles from this community-curated list. > > User:Coin945 has just started an attempt to revive this (see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_articles_for_improvem... > ) and already posted some ideas at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#October . I'm > passing this on to this list as not everyone might watch the Meta-wiki > pages. As mentioned earlier, the experiment back them left me wondering how > to best achieve impact (in form of actual edits caused by those posts), but > perhaps the current SM team has some new ideas. > > -- > Tilman Bayer > Senior Analyst > Wikimedia Foundation > IRC (Freenode): HaeB > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org'); > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
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