The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
Pine
This does sound pretty good! I don't have access to the Times either, and asking around it seems not many do...
On 16 December 2015 at 07:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
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How about Ocaasi with that Wikipedia Library giant keyring of his? (:
Pine
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This does sound pretty good! I don't have access to the Times either, and asking around it seems not many do...
On 16 December 2015 at 07:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
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or:
Certainly Wikipedia is more reliable than Giles Coren
I sold my Encyclopedia Britannica when I got married, as no longer needed. My wife knows everything.
JJN is quite right. I think that those who disparage Wikipedia are
generally guilty of a form of intellectual snobbery- "I had to work hard to acquire all my knowledge, why should it be made so easy for everyone nowadays?"
In fact you need to know a fair bit to use Wikipedia effectively and check
its accuracy, so Giles shouldn't worry too much.
Quite agree. This came up once before when Oliver Kamm wrote an article
disparaging Wikipedia. TOLsters argued with him and he retired from the scene fairly quickly.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
How about Ocaasi with that Wikipedia Library giant keyring of his? (:
Pine
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wrote:
This does sound pretty good! I don't have access to the Times either, and asking around it seems not many do...
On 16 December 2015 at 07:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
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Hear hear! I just imagine all these comments being written in stentorian tones.
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or:
Certainly Wikipedia is more reliable than Giles Coren
I sold my Encyclopedia Britannica when I got married, as no longer needed. My wife knows everything.
JJN is quite right. I think that those who disparage Wikipedia are
generally guilty of a form of intellectual snobbery- "I had to work hard to acquire all my knowledge, why should it be made so easy for everyone nowadays?"
In fact you need to know a fair bit to use Wikipedia effectively and check
its accuracy, so Giles shouldn't worry too much.
Quite agree. This came up once before when Oliver Kamm wrote an article
disparaging Wikipedia. TOLsters argued with him and he retired from the scene fairly quickly.
James Alexander Manager Trust & Safety Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
How about Ocaasi with that Wikipedia Library giant keyring of his? (:
Pine
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Joe Sutherland < jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
This does sound pretty good! I don't have access to the Times either, and asking around it seems not many do...
On 16 December 2015 at 07:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
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Also, for the record, TIL that Times of London commenters(sp?) call themselves TOLsters and like Wikipedia.
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Hear hear! I just imagine all these comments being written in stentorian tones.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:18 PM, James Alexander <jalexander@wikimedia.org
wrote:
or:
Certainly Wikipedia is more reliable than Giles Coren
I sold my Encyclopedia Britannica when I got married, as no longer needed. My wife knows everything.
JJN is quite right. I think that those who disparage Wikipedia are
generally guilty of a form of intellectual snobbery- "I had to work hard to acquire all my knowledge, why should it be made so easy for everyone nowadays?"
In fact you need to know a fair bit to use Wikipedia effectively and
check its accuracy, so Giles shouldn't worry too much.
Quite agree. This came up once before when Oliver Kamm wrote an article
disparaging Wikipedia. TOLsters argued with him and he retired from the scene fairly quickly.
James Alexander Manager Trust & Safety Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
How about Ocaasi with that Wikipedia Library giant keyring of his? (:
Pine
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Joe Sutherland < jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
This does sound pretty good! I don't have access to the Times either, and asking around it seems not many do...
On 16 December 2015 at 07:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
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This is at least the 4th time this month I've wanted to access something on the times so... signed up for at least a 3 month trial.
The original letter to the editor is short:
Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is
badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered.
I believe that we now have at our elbow a work of reference as useful as
any in existence; I can only implore Giles and any others who doubt these words to cast aside their prejudices and try it for themselves. As for me, I can’t believe my luck.
John Julius Norwich
London, W9
There are some good comments too. The #1 is a poem which is awesome:
ROBERT Vincent2 days ago
At breakfast John Julius Norwich nearly choked on a spoonful of porridge when Giles Coren, he'd heard, had clamed it absurd for research Wikipedia to forage.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
This does sound pretty good! I don't have access to the Times either, and asking around it seems not many do...
On 16 December 2015 at 07:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The lead is promising, though much of the letter is paywalled.
"Sir, I am — as he knows — an enthusiastic admirer of Giles Coren, but he is badly misinformed about Wikipedia (“Why stop at Trump?”, Dec 12). As a writer of history I resort to it at least a dozen times a day. I could never have written my last two books without it, and I have never caught it out yet, which is more than I can say of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Its range is astonishing: it is almost impossible to find a person, place or subject that it has left uncovered (end of my preview).... a work of reference as useful as any in existence..."
Thanks to Johnbod for pointing this out! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/letters/article4639798.ece
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