Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
*Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):*
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
*Facebook/Google+*
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes *on* Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
- When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
*Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):*
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
*Facebook/Google+*
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar): When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link) best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman <asherman@wikimedia.org mailto:asherman@wikimedia.org> wrote: Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/ https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
Facebook/Google+
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
E: asherman@wikimedia.org mailto:asherman@wikimedia.org WMF: ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Joe Sutherland Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as John Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please feel free to email me at any time.
--Ed On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes *on* Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
- When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia
biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
*Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):*
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
*Facebook/Google+*
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact on something, not to something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little nitpick really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as John Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please feel free to email me at any time.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote: Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar): When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link) best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
Facebook/Google+
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
E: asherman@wikimedia.org WMF: ASherman (WMF)
_______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Joe Sutherland Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu | w: JSutherland _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
_______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media -- Joe Sutherland Communications Volunteer m: +44 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for your flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact on something, not to something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little nitpick really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com mailto:the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as John Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please feel free to email me at any time.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" <fflorin@wikimedia.org mailto:fflorin@wikimedia.org> wrote: Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland <jsutherland@wikimedia.org mailto:jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar): When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link) best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman <asherman@wikimedia.org mailto:asherman@wikimedia.org> wrote: Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/ https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
Facebook/Google+
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
E: asherman@wikimedia.org mailto:asherman@wikimedia.org WMF: ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Joe Sutherland Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Joe Sutherland Communications Volunteer m: +44 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu
I'm not sure its really a dark side, so much as a downside. Dark sides conjure up human rights abuses. Downsides are frustrating setbacks. Can we adjust? On May 28, 2015 4:46 AM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for your flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact *on* something, not *to* something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little nitpick really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as John Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please feel free to email me at any time.
--Ed On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes *on* Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
- When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia
biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
*Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):*
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
*Facebook/Google+*
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Volunteer m: +44 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Are you certain? I came up with it as an alternative to the 'flip' side, or opposite what a person would normally expect, and I didn't have any negative comments on the title when it initially ran on the Signpost.
That said, I'm open to improving the title. My alternative opening was "Behind the comedic veil," if anyone thinks that is better. Thank you for the feedback!
Best, --Ed
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not sure its really a dark side, so much as a downside. Dark sides conjure up human rights abuses. Downsides are frustrating setbacks. Can we adjust? On May 28, 2015 4:46 AM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for your flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact *on* something, not *to* something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little nitpick really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as John Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please feel free to email me at any time.
--Ed On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes *on* Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
- When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia
biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
*Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):*
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
*Facebook/Google+*
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
*E:* asherman@wikimedia.org *WMF:* ASherman (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASherman_(WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Volunteer m: +44 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
I had read "dark side" as referring to the notion that it was unethical to cause (as a guess) tens of hours of volunteer cleanup work, and disrupt the reading experience of thousands of people, just to be able to make that one joke on TV. Not quite on the level of waterboarding said volunteers and readers for sure ;) but yes, a cynical element that doesn't quite fit into the image of the show as constantly fighting injustices.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
Are you certain? I came up with it as an alternative to the 'flip' side, or opposite what a person would normally expect, and I didn't have any negative comments on the title when it initially ran on the Signpost.
That said, I'm open to improving the title. My alternative opening was "Behind the comedic veil," if anyone thinks that is better. Thank you for the feedback!
Best, --Ed
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not sure its really a dark side, so much as a downside. Dark sides conjure up human rights abuses. Downsides are frustrating setbacks. Can we adjust?
On May 28, 2015 4:46 AM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for your flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact on something, not to something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little nitpick really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as John Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please feel free to email me at any time.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind if we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience as editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered -- and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism. (link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to the blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as needed.
Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought by @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
Facebook/Google+
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet answered. This required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a wide range of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
E: asherman@wikimedia.org WMF: ASherman (WMF)
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Joe Sutherland Communications Volunteer m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu | w: JSutherland _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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Well seems like this ok to put on social now.
I like the second tweet the best and FB/G LGTM.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
I had read "dark side" as referring to the notion that it was unethical to cause (as a guess) tens of hours of volunteer cleanup work, and disrupt the reading experience of thousands of people, just to be able to make that one joke on TV. Not quite on the level of waterboarding said volunteers and readers for sure ;) but yes, a cynical element that doesn't quite fit into the image of the show as constantly fighting injustices.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
Are you certain? I came up with it as an alternative to the 'flip' side,
or
opposite what a person would normally expect, and I didn't have any
negative
comments on the title when it initially ran on the Signpost.
That said, I'm open to improving the title. My alternative opening was "Behind the comedic veil," if anyone thinks that is better. Thank you for the feedback!
Best, --Ed
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not sure its really a dark side, so much as a downside. Dark sides conjure up human rights abuses. Downsides are frustrating setbacks. Can
we
adjust?
On May 28, 2015 4:46 AM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for
your
flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland <jsutherland@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact on something, not
to
something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little
nitpick
really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as
John
Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy to help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please
feel
free to email me at any time.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind
if
we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right as
it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience
as
editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together. :)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet
answered --
and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism.
(link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to
the
blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing.
Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as
needed.
Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia):
• A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up behind @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
• Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought
by
@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link)
Facebook/Google+
• When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet
answered. This
required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a
wide range
of articles. (link)
Thanks,
-- Andrew Sherman Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation
E: asherman@wikimedia.org WMF: ASherman (WMF)
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We have shared:
Fb: https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia/posts/10153278347703346
@wikipedia: https://twitter.com/Wikipedia/status/603998553241833472
@wikimedia: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Wikipedia G +: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/100123345029543043288/+Wikipedia/posts/8jy4f1X...
Wikimedia G +: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/100123345029543043288/+Wikipedia/posts/8jy4f1X...
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Michael Guss mguss@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well seems like this ok to put on social now.
I like the second tweet the best and FB/G LGTM.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
I had read "dark side" as referring to the notion that it was unethical to cause (as a guess) tens of hours of volunteer cleanup work, and disrupt the reading experience of thousands of people, just to be able to make that one joke on TV. Not quite on the level of waterboarding said volunteers and readers for sure ;) but yes, a cynical element that doesn't quite fit into the image of the show as constantly fighting injustices.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
Are you certain? I came up with it as an alternative to the 'flip'
side, or
opposite what a person would normally expect, and I didn't have any
negative
comments on the title when it initially ran on the Signpost.
That said, I'm open to improving the title. My alternative opening was "Behind the comedic veil," if anyone thinks that is better. Thank you
for
the feedback!
Best, --Ed
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Katherine Maher <kmaher@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I'm not sure its really a dark side, so much as a downside. Dark sides conjure up human rights abuses. Downsides are frustrating setbacks.
Can we
adjust?
On May 28, 2015 4:46 AM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for
your
flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact on something,
not to
something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little
nitpick
really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as
John
Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy
to
help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please
feel
free to email me at any time.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you mind
if
we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right
as it is.
Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and am very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog.
This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content editor for the blog and community profiles for the summer.
Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your experience
as
editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together.
:)
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")?
Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar):
When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet
answered --
and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the vandalism.
(link)
best, Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org
wrote:
> > Hello Everyone, > > We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John
Oliver’s
> ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL: > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/ > > Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost to
the
> blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing. > > Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as
needed.
> > Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia): > > • A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up
behind
> @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link) > > • Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism wrought
by
> @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link) > > Facebook/Google+ > > • When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia > biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet
answered. This
> required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a
wide range
> of articles. (link) > > Thanks, > > -- > Andrew Sherman > Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation > > E: asherman@wikimedia.org > WMF: ASherman (WMF) > > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >
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Looking at the comments so far, it appears that our FB followers don't quite respect the work it takes to create Wikipedia.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Michael Guss mguss@wikimedia.org wrote:
We have shared:
Fb: https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia/posts/10153278347703346
@wikipedia: https://twitter.com/Wikipedia/status/603998553241833472
@wikimedia: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/
Wikipedia G +: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/100123345029543043288/+Wikipedia/posts/8jy4f1X...
Wikimedia G +: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/100123345029543043288/+Wikipedia/posts/8jy4f1X...
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Michael Guss mguss@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well seems like this ok to put on social now.
I like the second tweet the best and FB/G LGTM.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
I had read "dark side" as referring to the notion that it was unethical to cause (as a guess) tens of hours of volunteer cleanup work, and disrupt the reading experience of thousands of people, just to be able to make that one joke on TV. Not quite on the level of waterboarding said volunteers and readers for sure ;) but yes, a cynical element that doesn't quite fit into the image of the show as constantly fighting injustices.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
Are you certain? I came up with it as an alternative to the 'flip'
side, or
opposite what a person would normally expect, and I didn't have any
negative
comments on the title when it initially ran on the Signpost.
That said, I'm open to improving the title. My alternative opening was "Behind the comedic veil," if anyone thinks that is better. Thank you
for
the feedback!
Best, --Ed
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Katherine Maher <
kmaher@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
I'm not sure its really a dark side, so much as a downside. Dark sides conjure up human rights abuses. Downsides are frustrating setbacks.
Can we
adjust?
On May 28, 2015 4:46 AM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Thank you Joe for your constructive feedback — and thank you Ed for
your
flexibility :)
I updated the blog post as well.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ed Erhart the.ed17@gmail.com wrote:
I'm fine with either construction! Thanks for looking at it, Joe--I'm appreciate it.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi Ed - my reasoning is that something has an impact on something,
not to
something, so it didn’t make a lot of sense. But it’s just a little
nitpick
really!
Joe
On 28 May 2015 at 2:38:13 am, Ed Erhart (the.ed17@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
I'm fine with that change. I thought that it might be interpreted as
John
Oliver editing Wikipedia himself, that's all.
I'll send a fuller email tomorrow to introduce myself, but I'm happy
to
help anyone who has questions about the Wikimedia community! Please
feel
free to email me at any time.
--Ed
On May 27, 2015 9:27 PM, "Fabrice Florin" fflorin@wikimedia.org
wrote:
> > Yeah, I’m having second thoughts about that too … Ed, would you
mind if
> we used the wording which Joe suggests? It just doesn’t seem right
as it is.
> > Other than that, I’m really glad that we published this piece, and
am
> very grateful to Ed for adapting it for the blog. > > This is as good a time as any to welcome Ed as our new content
editor
> for the blog and community profiles for the summer. > > Welcome aboard, Ed! We look forward to learning from your
experience as
> editor emeritus on the Signpost and doing some great work together.
:)
> > > Fabrice > > > > On May 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland@wikimedia.org>
> wrote: > > Surely this should be "...'fowl' jokes on Wikipedia" (not "to")? > > Otherwise LGTM, except I'd go with this for FB/G+ (or similar): > > When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia > biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet
answered --
> and Wikipedia's volunteer editors started to clean up the
vandalism. (link)
> > best, > Joe > > > On 28 May 2015 at 01:49, Andrew Sherman asherman@wikimedia.org
wrote:
>> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> We just published "A dark side of comedy: the impact of John
Oliver’s
>> ‘fowl’ jokes to Wikipedia" to the blog. URL: >> >> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/ >> >> Thanks to Ed for writing and adapting his post from the Signpost
to the
>> blog. Thanks as well to Fabrice for editing. >> >> Below are some proposed social media messages. Please tweak as
needed.
>> >> Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia): >> >> • A dark side of comedy: the #Wikipedia volunteers cleaning up
behind
>> @iamJohnOliver/@LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link) >> >> • Behind the veil: #Wikipedia volunteers clean up vandalism
wrought by
>> @LastWeekTonight's fowl jokes (link) >> >> Facebook/Google+ >> >> • When John Oliver called on the Internet to edit the Wikipedia >> biographies of US congressional representatives, the Internet
answered. This
>> required Wikipedia's volunteer editors to clean up vandalism on a
wide range
>> of articles. (link) >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Andrew Sherman >> Digital Communications | Wikimedia Foundation >> >> E: asherman@wikimedia.org >> WMF: ASherman (WMF) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> > > > > -- > Joe Sutherland > Communications Volunteer > m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu | w: JSutherland > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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