Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
Joe
Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention to the ongoing talks.
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That was my thinking, yeah. I don't see it being a problem, but would probably require a bit of judgement. Juliet/Katherine - thoughts?
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Yes I think we can do a few. The one I just mentioned would be good. Maybe one from Andrew Lih - he has been live tweeting
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That was my thinking, yeah. I don't see it being a problem, but would probably require a bit of judgement. Juliet/Katherine - thoughts?
On 17 July 2015 at 09:54, James Alexander jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote: Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention to the ongoing talks.
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I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Agreed. I'd keep @Wikipedia tweets to a minimum, but as James says, tweeting from @wikimedia offers us a way to bring IRL Wikimedia voice to the acct and support our presenters.
mobile. On Jul 17, 2015 10:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Done. Perhaps myself and Michael could pick tweets to RT through the day/conference ourselves to save time/effort?
Joe
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I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Hello,
I've already done some RTs. Noted to keep RTs @wikipedia to a minimum with emphasis on @wikimedia ( and @wikicommons for particular talks as well as @mediawiki).
Joe let's stick together - sometimes on wifi goes in and out.
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Done. Perhaps myself and Michael could pick tweets to RT through the day/conference ourselves to save time/effort?
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 10:01, Juliet Barbara jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention to the ongoing talks.
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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Can do! Will stick to @Wikimedia. :)
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Hello,
I've already done some RTs. Noted to keep RTs @wikipedia to a minimum with emphasis on @wikimedia ( and @wikicommons for particular talks as well as @mediawiki).
Joe let's stick together - sometimes on wifi goes in and out.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Joe Sutherland < jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Done. Perhaps myself and Michael could pick tweets to RT through the day/conference ourselves to save time/effort?
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 10:01, Juliet Barbara jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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Thank you both! Agree coordination is extra important with wifi issues and especially any live tweeting
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Can do! Will stick to @Wikimedia. :)
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 10:06, Michael Guss mguss@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello,
I've already done some RTs. Noted to keep RTs @wikipedia to a minimum with emphasis on @wikimedia ( and @wikicommons for particular talks as well as @mediawiki).
Joe let's stick together - sometimes on wifi goes in and out.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote: Done. Perhaps myself and Michael could pick tweets to RT through the day/conference ourselves to save time/effort?
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 10:01, Juliet Barbara jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote: I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Personally I'd say a relaxation of the 4 eyes rule is fair for this type of thing. For anything on the edge enough of us are wandering around the venue that getting a check in person or by IRC/IM should be moderately easy. (Tldr: I would restrict yourselves to being attached at the hip :) )
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Hello,
I've already done some RTs. Noted to keep RTs @wikipedia to a minimum with emphasis on @wikimedia ( and @wikicommons for particular talks as well as @mediawiki).
Joe let's stick together - sometimes on wifi goes in and out.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote: Done. Perhaps myself and Michael could pick tweets to RT through the day/conference ourselves to save time/effort?
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 10:01, Juliet Barbara jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote: I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention to the ongoing talks.
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote: Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine
On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote: I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
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Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
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Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention to the ongoing talks.
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
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BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
@RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
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Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention to the ongoing talks.
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Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks etc?
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Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
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Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org wrote:
> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia > > @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own > rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < > jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good > thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from > @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention > to the ongoing talks. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > James Alexander > Legal and Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation > +1 415-839-6885 x6716 > > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org > wrote: > > Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks > etc? > > Joe > > -- > *Joe Sutherland* > Communications Intern [remote] > m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: > JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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I see that particular quote from Lila as problematic, but returning to the general topic of retweeting Wikimania conversations, that sounds like it could be fun.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 2:31 PM, "Ed Erhart" eerhart@wikimedia.org wrote:
Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
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Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not > publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy. > > Pine > On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org > wrote: > >> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia >> >> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own >> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < >> jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good >> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from >> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention >> to the ongoing talks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> James Alexander >> Legal and Community Advocacy >> Wikimedia Foundation >> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >> >> >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland < >> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks >> etc? >> >> Joe >> >> -- >> *Joe Sutherland* >> Communications Intern [remote] >> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | >> w: JSutherland >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I see that particular quote from Lila as problematic, but returning to the general topic of retweeting Wikimania conversations, that sounds like it could be fun.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 2:31 PM, "Ed Erhart" eerhart@wikimedia.org wrote:
Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
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Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
> Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound > revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like > that ( because it's been a core thing since the start). > > Sent from my iPhone > > > James Alexander > Legal and Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation > +1 415-839-6885 x6716 > > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org > wrote: > > "Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however. > > On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote: > >> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not >> publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy. >> >> Pine >> On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >> >>> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia >>> >>> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own >>> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < >>> jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good >>> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from >>> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention >>> to the ongoing talks. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> James Alexander >>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >>> >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland < >>> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania >>> talks etc? >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> -- >>> *Joe Sutherland* >>> Communications Intern [remote] >>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | >>> w: JSutherland >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > > > -- > *Joe Sutherland* > Communications Intern [remote] > m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: > JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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LGTM, done from @wikimedia and I actually did @Wikipedia too for this one. really like.
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For potential retweet? https://twitter.com/marianarra_/status/622054516800655360
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I see that particular quote from Lila as problematic, but returning to the general topic of retweeting Wikimania conversations, that sounds like it could be fun.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 2:31 PM, "Ed Erhart" eerhart@wikimedia.org wrote:
Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
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Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
> Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes > need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote > sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote > that can be used instead. > > Pine > On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org > wrote: > >> Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound >> revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like >> that ( because it's been a core thing since the start). >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> James Alexander >> Legal and Community Advocacy >> Wikimedia Foundation >> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >> >> >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland < >> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> "Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however. >> >> On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not >>> publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy. >>> >>> Pine >>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia >>>> >>>> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own >>>> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < >>>> jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good >>>> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from >>>> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention >>>> to the ongoing talks. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> James Alexander >>>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland < >>>> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania >>>> talks etc? >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Joe Sutherland* >>>> Communications Intern [remote] >>>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | >>>> w: JSutherland >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Social-media mailing list >>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Social-media mailing list >>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Social-media mailing list >>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Joe Sutherland* >> Communications Intern [remote] >> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | >> w: JSutherland >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
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Agreed. Thanks go to Brett Gibbs (whose email I don't have on hand) for pointing it out to me.
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 2:18 AM, James Alexander jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
LGTM, done from @wikimedia and I actually did @Wikipedia too for this one. really like.
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Ed Erhart eerhart@wikimedia.org wrote:
For potential retweet? https://twitter.com/marianarra_/status/622054516800655360
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I see that particular quote from Lila as problematic, but returning to the general topic of retweeting Wikimania conversations, that sounds like it could be fun.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 2:31 PM, "Ed Erhart" eerhart@wikimedia.org wrote:
Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Joe Sutherland < jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
> Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD . > > Joe > > On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote: > >> Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes >> need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote >> sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote >> that can be used instead. >> >> Pine >> On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" < >> jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to >>> sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound >>> like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start). >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> James Alexander >>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >>> >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland < >>> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>> "Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however. >>> >>> On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not >>>> publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy. >>>> >>>> Pine >>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia >>>>> >>>>> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own >>>>> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < >>>>> jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good >>>>> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from >>>>> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention >>>>> to the ongoing talks. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> James Alexander >>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland < >>>>> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania >>>>> talks etc? >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Joe Sutherland* >>>>> Communications Intern [remote] >>>>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu >>>>> | w: JSutherland >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Social-media mailing list >>>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Joe Sutherland* >>> Communications Intern [remote] >>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | >>> w: JSutherland >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > > > -- > *Joe Sutherland* > Communications Intern [remote] > m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | w: > JSutherland https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > _______________________________________________ Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
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