While I agree with you Pine I know that this is something that has been discussed with FB in the past. While that doesn't mean it isn't something we could look at again (there are many more staff members in both comms and legal now) it was very clear that it is significantly more complicated then you might think and even if we were able to do it I would expect it to be a very long and drawn out process (think no less then a year). In the end it would require an enormous amount of coordination in almost everything they do as there are a lot of assumptions built in and may well just not be very possible given the huge breath of reach and interconnectiveness (not sure that's a word) that their services have now. Pinterest, on the other hand, was significantly more interested including with building in automatic attribution for any commons works with the biggest blocker being structured data (scraping templates is... not very good at all) which I know we've gotten a lot better at! though there is probably still work to be done.
tldr: For now the only legitimate option is going to be to ask users to duel license/give permission or use PD work (or of course work the WMF owns).
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On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
IANAL but instead could the WMF legal folks contact Facebook to ask them to make their terms compatible with CC-BY-SA and CC-BY licenses? I would rather have FB change then ask our users to change permissions. FB would gain commercially from the views of WM content on their site, meaning that FB has a commercial incentive to change that WMF Legal could mention when discussing the situation with FB.
Pine On Oct 16, 2015 12:25 AM, "Katherine Maher" kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
Funny you mention that Tilman.
I was wondering last night if it might be possible to talk to the organizers of WLM/WLE about making that part of the finalist process for next year. So much more visibility for the winners!
mobile. On Oct 16, 2015 3:08 AM, "Tilman Bayer" tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
As an aside, the organizers of another contest told me they explicitly request permission from all contestants to upload their submissions to Facebook, in order to determine winners by voting via "Likes" in FB photo albums: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/06/02/wiki-tour-chile-photo-contest/
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jeff Elder jelder@wikimedia.org wrote:
I would really like to post some of the photos on social. Can we get permission from the photographers -- i.e., are the organizers in touch
with
them? I don't see any of the photos in the public domain, which is
what we
need unless we have permission.
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On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ed Erhart eerhart@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi all,
We've just published "See the stunning winning photographs from Wiki
Loves
Earth 2015" to the blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/15/wiki-loves-earth-winners/
Thanks to Vira for the post.
Proposed social media messages:
The top five images come from three continents and five countries. You can't miss <insert favorite image here>. Have you ever seen a bee being born?
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