Some of you may have seen this initiative:
http://sciencecodemanifesto.org/
I'd like to hear from you if this is something we would be willing to endorse on behalf of WMF.
Dario
Yes, I definitely think we should endorse this. Diederik
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Some of you may have seen this initiative:
http://sciencecodemanifesto.org/
I'd like to hear from you if this is something we would be willing to endorse on behalf of WMF.
Dario
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I think we should endorse it. There are problems with the proposal(*), but overall this is a step in the right direction. John
(*) "All source code written specifically to process data for a published paper must be available to the reviewers and readers of the paper."
What does this mean if you're talking about a company using a lot of internal source code that is not available to outsiders, but that is used for internal processes in addition to data analysis? It would seem the software would not have to be released, which is probably a necessary evil, but blunts in practice the value of the proposal.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I definitely think we should endorse this. Diederik
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Some of you may have seen this initiative:
http://sciencecodemanifesto.org/
I'd like to hear from you if this is something we would be willing to endorse on behalf of WMF.
Dario
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I very much agree, I like the spirit of the initiative (which, incidentally, comes from people who are on the EB of the Open Research Computation journal [1]) but I also have doubts as to how to implement it practically or enforce its recommendations, other than in cases in which code used to process data is entirely self-contained and has no major proprietary dependencies.
These are good questions for the authors of the manifesto and, as Yaroslav pointed out, it's kind of ironic to see the head of Google research among the signatories. Here's a related discussion on the problem of releasing code when the data is not itself available [2]
Dario
[1] http://www.openresearchcomputation.com/ [2] https://plus.google.com/u/0/114723964985237592593/posts/PVE3nwrXRgi
On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:48 AM, John Riedl wrote:
I think we should endorse it. There are problems with the proposal(*), but overall this is a step in the right direction. John
(*) "All source code written specifically to process data for a published paper must be available to the reviewers and readers of the paper."
What does this mean if you're talking about a company using a lot of internal source code that is not available to outsiders, but that is used for internal processes in addition to data analysis? It would seem the software would not have to be released, which is probably a necessary evil, but blunts in practice the value of the proposal.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I definitely think we should endorse this. Diederik
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Some of you may have seen this initiative:
http://sciencecodemanifesto.org/
I'd like to hear from you if this is something we would be willing to endorse on behalf of WMF.
Dario
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:05:17 -0400, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I definitely think we should endorse this. Diederik
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Some of you may have seen this initiative:
http://sciencecodemanifesto.org/
I'd like to hear from you if this is something we would be willing to endorse on behalf of WMF.
Dario
I agree, though the signature of the director of Google Research looks ..hmm.. ambigous.
Cheers Yaroslav