Dear all,
I completed a first draft: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU .
Daniel
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
[sorry for cross-posting]
I wanted to remind you all that the deadline of the European consultation on Open Access and Open Data is September 9th. Here's the link: http://ec.europa.eu/research/consultations/scientific_information/consultati...
and here's the survey on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU
Daniel is working on that, but feedback could be useful.
Here my few cents about some proposals we could make in the comment sections ofthe survey:
- We need strategies/policies for OA. We need institutions/university
to *require* OAfrom doctoral students and researchers. 2. We need digital preservation to be done by libraries and archives, not publishers. They have right now the functions and services (access, dissemination, preservation) that should be accomplished by libraries. Preservation is an issue. 3. We need clear, easily understandable licenses. CC-BY for articles and CC-0 for research data should do their job. No more ad hoc, human-not-understandable licenses, but clear Creative Commons. (CC-BY= we can use that on Wikipedia, we can upload it on Commons, we can publish it on Wikisource, we have material for Wikibooks/Wikiversity, etc.)
I hope this can be useful.
Aubrey
2011/7/28 Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com:
Thank you Daniel, great work. Lodewijk was suggesting that we reply as an organization, because they don't really count single citizens proposals. If we manage to write something, we could then forward it many times, one per chapter, in several languages :-)
But first things first, we need to work on the draft.
Aubrey
2011/7/28 Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com:
Problem solved; full text now on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU . Daniel
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Aubrey,
thanks for the invitation. I had indeed planned to set up a document to facilitate collaborative drafting of a response. So far, I have seen the Open Knowledge Foundation, the Euroscience Working Group on Open Access as well as Eurodoc signaling an interest in drafting a response, and doing it all together - perhaps with an individual comment per organization - could be worth a try.
The questionnaire comes in three variants - for citizens, organisations and public bodies - and the session to fill it in is time-limited, so we will have to set up an editable copy somewhere. The Commission provided a PDF ( http://ec.europa.eu/research/consultations/scientific_information/questionna... ) whose text cannot be copied, and I inquired with them on July 16 to provide another version of the file. My submission was "forwarded to the technical unit" two days later but no reaction since - I just dropped them a line again.
To get things started, I just set up http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU . Please chime in there.
Thanks and cheers,
Daniel
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all. Lodewijk today forwarded me this interesting EU consultation about open access, open data and digital preservation for scientific information.
Press release: http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/11/890
Consultation: http://ec.europa.eu/research/consultations/scientific_information/consultati...
It could be very, very interesting if we (as Wikimedia Movement, or Wikimedia chapters) could write a statement to contribute. Maybe our brand-new Open Access WMF fellow could be interested in coordinating :-D
Anyway, it seems a good opportunity to put in (digital) paper what we think about these issues.
Any thoughts? We have until September 9th.
Aubrey
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Daniel and I worked on the draft of the WMF response to the EU consultation on OA, if you have any comments or wish to contribute to the response, please do so by today 3pm Pacific Time (10pm UTC).
Dario
On Sep 4, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Daniel Mietchen wrote:
Dear all,
I completed a first draft: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU .
Daniel
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
[sorry for cross-posting]
I wanted to remind you all that the deadline of the European consultation on Open Access and Open Data is September 9th. Here's the link: http://ec.europa.eu/research/consultations/scientific_information/consultati...
and here's the survey on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU
Daniel is working on that, but feedback could be useful.
Here my few cents about some proposals we could make in the comment sections ofthe survey:
- We need strategies/policies for OA. We need institutions/university
to *require* OAfrom doctoral students and researchers. 2. We need digital preservation to be done by libraries and archives, not publishers. They have right now the functions and services (access, dissemination, preservation) that should be accomplished by libraries. Preservation is an issue. 3. We need clear, easily understandable licenses. CC-BY for articles and CC-0 for research data should do their job. No more ad hoc, human-not-understandable licenses, but clear Creative Commons. (CC-BY= we can use that on Wikipedia, we can upload it on Commons, we can publish it on Wikisource, we have material for Wikibooks/Wikiversity, etc.)
I hope this can be useful.
Aubrey
2011/7/28 Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com:
Thank you Daniel, great work. Lodewijk was suggesting that we reply as an organization, because they don't really count single citizens proposals. If we manage to write something, we could then forward it many times, one per chapter, in several languages :-)
But first things first, we need to work on the draft.
Aubrey
2011/7/28 Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com:
Problem solved; full text now on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU . Daniel
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Aubrey,
thanks for the invitation. I had indeed planned to set up a document to facilitate collaborative drafting of a response. So far, I have seen the Open Knowledge Foundation, the Euroscience Working Group on Open Access as well as Eurodoc signaling an interest in drafting a response, and doing it all together - perhaps with an individual comment per organization - could be worth a try.
The questionnaire comes in three variants - for citizens, organisations and public bodies - and the session to fill it in is time-limited, so we will have to set up an editable copy somewhere. The Commission provided a PDF ( http://ec.europa.eu/research/consultations/scientific_information/questionna... ) whose text cannot be copied, and I inquired with them on July 16 to provide another version of the file. My submission was "forwarded to the technical unit" two days later but no reaction since - I just dropped them a line again.
To get things started, I just set up http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCom/OA/EU . Please chime in there.
Thanks and cheers,
Daniel
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all. Lodewijk today forwarded me this interesting EU consultation about open access, open data and digital preservation for scientific information.
Press release: http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/11/890
Consultation: http://ec.europa.eu/research/consultations/scientific_information/consultati...
It could be very, very interesting if we (as Wikimedia Movement, or Wikimedia chapters) could write a statement to contribute. Maybe our brand-new Open Access WMF fellow could be interested in coordinating :-D
Anyway, it seems a good opportunity to put in (digital) paper what we think about these issues.
Any thoughts? We have until September 9th.
Aubrey
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On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:59:44 -0700, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Daniel and I worked on the draft of the WMF response to the EU consultation on OA, if you have any comments or wish to contribute to
the
response, please do so by today 3pm Pacific Time (10pm UTC).
Dario
Is there any way to submit it via one of the European chapters (for instance, the German one)? I think they would listen better if a European address has been selected in the first page of the questionnaire.
Cheers Yaroslav
Dear all,
the current draft at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee/Areas_of_interest/Open-acc... is serving as the basis for the submission by the WMF, foreseen for tonight, so as to meet the submission deadline of tomorrow.
Individual chapters can simply submit a copy with another address, or otherwise modify as they see fit. WM Italy certainly signaled the intention to do so (Andrea is in CC), and I am copying in some German Wikimedians who might have an opinion.
Some prior discussions have taken place at Foundation-l and libraries-l, e.g. at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/067896.html .
Cheers,
Daniel
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:59:44 -0700, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Daniel and I worked on the draft of the WMF response to the EU consultation on OA, if you have any comments or wish to contribute to
the
response, please do so by today 3pm Pacific Time (10pm UTC).
Dario
Is there any way to submit it via one of the European chapters (for instance, the German one)? I think they would listen better if a European address has been selected in the first page of the questionnaire.
Cheers Yaroslav
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