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Daniel Mietchen

27 Aug 27 Aug

11:58 p.m.

Hello together, the same goes for me - haven't used IRC for about a decade now, but get along fine with Skype, especially in combination with an Etherpad. I will go with the majority, though. Daniel On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru> wrote:

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Dear all, concerning the technical issues: I am normally not using IRC, and I very much prefer skype conferences. If I am the only one I am willing to compromise on this, but we may want to discuss the preferences of the committee members. Cheers Yaroslav _______________________________________________ RCom-l mailing list RCom-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l

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Dario Taraborelli

12:49 a.m.

IRC or skype is fine with me, as long as we can easily save the logs of a conference. Dario On 27 Aug 2010, at 17:26, Pangiota Alevizou wrote:

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Hi, Same here. I'd prefer skype and the combination with Etherpad is a great idea. Giota On 27 Aug 2010, at 16:58, Daniel Mietchen wrote:

Hello together, the same goes for me - haven't used IRC for about a decade now, but get along fine with Skype, especially in combination with an Etherpad. I will go with the majority, though. Daniel On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru> wrote:

Dear all, concerning the technical issues: I am normally not using IRC, and I very much prefer skype conferences. If I am the only one I am willing to compromise on this, but we may want to discuss the preferences of the committee members. Cheers Yaroslav _______________________________________________ RCom-l mailing list RCom-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l

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WereSpielChequers

3:33 p.m.

I've experience of both IRC and Skype conferencing and I very much prefer skype, though if we are all on it would help to have a chair and a text channel. We need to decide whether the call is going to be recorded and or streamed. Also before we decide to communicate in realtime as well as online, can we establish whether there are common times when we are all available? This shouldn't be too difficult if we don't have anyone West of California or East of the Euphrates - are any of us in Australasia, east or southern asia? On 28 August 2010 01:07, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Just to say that I am not likely to be able to participate in voice/video conversations. I can try, but I am quite unsure about being able to have voice connection because of internet access quality. Nominally, it should work fine (ADSL 4Mbps/512Kbps), but the connection quality is not perfect, at least in the sense of skyping. Usually, I have a couple of interruptions during one 30-60 minutes session, which is OK if it is one-to-one communication, but could be very painful with many people in communication. But, all in all, I don't have any strong argument against textual skyping. I don't know how WebEx would work on my computer, while it sounds interesting. And, of course, I prefer IRC. _______________________________________________ RCom-l mailing list RCom-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l

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Fuster, Mayo

3:15 p.m.

New subject: RS: IRC meetings

Hola! IRC or skype is fine with me. I am based in Europe hour line. Like Milos, I don't fully understand either what this means: "supporting the development of subject recruitment processes". In any case, I added my name and priorities to the functions list. Welcome to everybody! Mayo «·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·» Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info European University Institute - Phd Candidate School of information Berkeley Visiting researcher Phone Italy: (New!) 0039-3312805010 or 0039-0558409982 Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748 E-mail: mayo.fuster(a)eui.eu Skype: mayoneti Identi.ca: Mayo Postal address: Badia Fiesolana - Via dei Roccettini 9, I-50014 San Domenico di Fiesole (FI) - Italy Fax [+39] 055 4685 201 -----Missatge original----- De: rcom-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org en nom de Aaron Halfaker Enviat el: dc. 01/09/2010 00:33 Per a: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list Tema: Re: [RCom-l] IRC meetings I'm strongly in favor of voice conferencing of some sort (Skype or otherwise) due to the difference in the amount of time text and speech take to convey ideas. For example, recently, I have been exit-interviewing some enwp editors. Of those interviews I've done over the phone or skype, I was able to complete the entire question set in about 30 minutes. Whereas, the same question set took about 4 hours to complete over gtalk and IRC. In other words, conveying roughly the same ideas over text took about 8 times longer than voice. For the sake of keeping our synchronous meetings both brief and effective, I feel strongly that we should pursue some voice communication system. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:33 AM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I've experience of both IRC and Skype conferencing and I very much prefer skype, though if we are all on it would help to have a chair and a text channel. We need to decide whether the call is going to be recorded and or streamed. Also before we decide to communicate in realtime as well as online, can we establish whether there are common times when we are all available? This shouldn't be too difficult if we don't have anyone West of California or East of the Euphrates - are any of us in Australasia, east or southern asia? On 28 August 2010 01:07, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Just to say that I am not likely to be able to participate in voice/video conversations. I can try, but I am quite unsure about being able to have voice connection because of internet access quality. Nominally, it should work fine (ADSL 4Mbps/512Kbps), but the connection quality is not perfect, at least in the sense of skyping. Usually, I have a couple of interruptions during one 30-60 minutes session, which is OK if it is one-to-one communication, but could be very painful with many people in communication. But, all in all, I don't have any strong argument against textual skyping. I don't know how WebEx would work on my computer, while it sounds interesting. And, of course, I prefer IRC. _______________________________________________ RCom-l mailing list RCom-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l

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Aaron Halfaker

10:47 p.m.

I should have specified that I feel so strongly about voice only in regards to synchronous communication. I agree that the majority of our discussions should be kept asynchronous, though we'd probably best be served by some introductory meeting over voice to get to know each other and determine our roles. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 00:33, Aaron Halfaker <aaron.halfaker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm strongly in favor of voice conferencing of some sort (Skype or otherwise) due to the difference in the amount of time text and speech

take

to convey ideas. For example, recently, I have been exit-interviewing

some

enwp editors. Of those interviews I've done over the phone or skype, I

was

able to complete the entire question set in about 30 minutes. Whereas,

the

same question set took about 4 hours to complete over gtalk and IRC. In other words, conveying roughly the same ideas over text took about 8

times

longer than voice. For the sake of keeping our synchronous meetings both brief and

effective, I

feel strongly that we should pursue some voice communication system.

The most productive way of group communication is asynchronous, which puts mailing lists and wikis at the first place: * Writing (typing) is slower than talking. However, it is faster to read, than to listen. And it is, actually, better, as group communication is "many-to-many": we need to read/listen a lot and write/talk much less. * Thoughts are well structured, unlike in any synchronous communication. * It is not necessary to wake up at 4:00 [at the morning] to be able to participate in discussion because it is the most acceptable time for meeting for all participants. * Communication flow is much slower, but the nature of our job is not executive. * Publicly archived mailing list is more transparent than Skype conference. So, I prefer to have the most important communication and the most of communication via mailing list. (To be honest, I can't imagine what we can do better by talking instead of writing [asynchronously].) But, if there is a need for conferences, except technical issues which I've mentioned, I am fine with any type of synchronous communication. _______________________________________________ RCom-l mailing list RCom-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l

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