FYI, we have a new recruitment request. Please see the writeup ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...) and discussion ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_net&action=edit&redlink=1 )
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michael Tsikerdekis tsikerdekis@gmail.comwrote:
Dear Dario Taraborelli & Aaron Halfaker,
I would like to bring to your attention a new research project that i posted on Wikipedia. The page can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...
As i describe in the text the benefits for understanding the differences between complete anonymity, pseudonymity and when users use their emails can be tremendous for online communities and increasing collaboration.
I also attach to this email a draft(which i haven't proof read yet so errors can be present) which contains a more rigorous presentation of the concepts. In fact this draft is the planned version that eventually after fixing will be send to the publisher of the journal.
I need to note that the methods that i proposed are subject to change if they violate certain guidelines. Generally i will accept whatever changes you propose as long as they maintain the probability sampling method which is essential for better results.
Since the survey has already been developed. I am providing you with two links(if you need more i can give you more) so that you can see it for yourselves and judge(hopefully with good comments but constructive criticism is more than welcome) :-)
http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=17503006602 http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=45766208972
Thank you for taking the time to consider and i eagerly waiting to hear back from you :-)
Best regards, Michail Tsikerdekis PhD student at Masaryk University, Faculty of Informatics Brno, Czech Republic
I've just added some initial discussion to the talk page. This research would like to perform recruitment via Special:EmailUser. I'm not sure how I feel about that so I've summarized my thoughts on the matter and asked for input.
Also, I've added myself as the "WMF Contact", but I'm not officially WMF anymore. I wonder if we might change that field to RCom Contact or add a new field.
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.comwrote:
FYI, we have a new recruitment request. Please see the writeup ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...) and discussion ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_net&action=edit&redlink=1 )
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michael Tsikerdekis < tsikerdekis@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Dario Taraborelli & Aaron Halfaker,
I would like to bring to your attention a new research project that i posted on Wikipedia. The page can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...
As i describe in the text the benefits for understanding the differences between complete anonymity, pseudonymity and when users use their emails can be tremendous for online communities and increasing collaboration.
I also attach to this email a draft(which i haven't proof read yet so errors can be present) which contains a more rigorous presentation of the concepts. In fact this draft is the planned version that eventually after fixing will be send to the publisher of the journal.
I need to note that the methods that i proposed are subject to change if they violate certain guidelines. Generally i will accept whatever changes you propose as long as they maintain the probability sampling method which is essential for better results.
Since the survey has already been developed. I am providing you with two links(if you need more i can give you more) so that you can see it for yourselves and judge(hopefully with good comments but constructive criticism is more than welcome) :-)
http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=17503006602 http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=45766208972
Thank you for taking the time to consider and i eagerly waiting to hear back from you :-)
Best regards, Michail Tsikerdekis PhD student at Masaryk University, Faculty of Informatics Brno, Czech Republic
Also, I've added myself as the "WMF Contact", but I'm not officially WMF anymore. I wonder if we might change that field to RCom Contact or add a new field.
I think it's ok to refer to RCom members as WMF contacts for the purpose of reviewing research proposals. I actually advised Goran that whenever one of us takes the lead on handling the review of a proposal or becomes the main contact point for the researcher, then the WMF contact field on the project page *should* be updated to reflect this.
The wording is unfortunate (it used to be "WMF supervisor or sponsor"!) and it predated the RCom, but I wouldn't change it in the templates unless there's a major need to.
Dario
I haven't received any other comments about using Special:EmailUser to contact 1000 users for a survey. I'd assume that many Wikipedians would take issue with such an approach.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_net&action=edit&redlink=1
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.comwrote:
I've just added some initial discussion to the talk page. This research would like to perform recruitment via Special:EmailUser. I'm not sure how I feel about that so I've summarized my thoughts on the matter and asked for input.
Also, I've added myself as the "WMF Contact", but I'm not officially WMF anymore. I wonder if we might change that field to RCom Contact or add a new field.
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Aaron Halfaker <aaron.halfaker@gmail.com
wrote:
FYI, we have a new recruitment request. Please see the writeup ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...) and discussion ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_net&action=edit&redlink=1 )
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michael Tsikerdekis < tsikerdekis@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Dario Taraborelli & Aaron Halfaker,
I would like to bring to your attention a new research project that i posted on Wikipedia. The page can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...
As i describe in the text the benefits for understanding the differences between complete anonymity, pseudonymity and when users use their emails can be tremendous for online communities and increasing collaboration.
I also attach to this email a draft(which i haven't proof read yet so errors can be present) which contains a more rigorous presentation of the concepts. In fact this draft is the planned version that eventually after fixing will be send to the publisher of the journal.
I need to note that the methods that i proposed are subject to change if they violate certain guidelines. Generally i will accept whatever changes you propose as long as they maintain the probability sampling method which is essential for better results.
Since the survey has already been developed. I am providing you with two links(if you need more i can give you more) so that you can see it for yourselves and judge(hopefully with good comments but constructive criticism is more than welcome) :-)
http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=17503006602 http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=45766208972
Thank you for taking the time to consider and i eagerly waiting to hear back from you :-)
Best regards, Michail Tsikerdekis PhD student at Masaryk University, Faculty of Informatics Brno, Czech Republic
agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most active Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members?
Dario
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Participatory_Motivation_to_Com...
On Sep 28, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
I haven't received any other comments about using Special:EmailUser to contact 1000 users for a survey. I'd assume that many Wikipedians would take issue with such an approach.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote: I've just added some initial discussion to the talk page. This research would like to perform recruitment via Special:EmailUser. I'm not sure how I feel about that so I've summarized my thoughts on the matter and asked for input.
Also, I've added myself as the "WMF Contact", but I'm not officially WMF anymore. I wonder if we might change that field to RCom Contact or add a new field.
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote: FYI, we have a new recruitment request. Please see the writeup (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...) and discussion (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...)
-Aaron
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michael Tsikerdekis tsikerdekis@gmail.com wrote: Dear Dario Taraborelli & Aaron Halfaker,
I would like to bring to your attention a new research project that i posted on Wikipedia. The page can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_the_ne...
As i describe in the text the benefits for understanding the differences between complete anonymity, pseudonymity and when users use their emails can be tremendous for online communities and increasing collaboration.
I also attach to this email a draft(which i haven't proof read yet so errors can be present) which contains a more rigorous presentation of the concepts. In fact this draft is the planned version that eventually after fixing will be send to the publisher of the journal.
I need to note that the methods that i proposed are subject to change if they violate certain guidelines. Generally i will accept whatever changes you propose as long as they maintain the probability sampling method which is essential for better results.
Since the survey has already been developed. I am providing you with two links(if you need more i can give you more) so that you can see it for yourselves and judge(hopefully with good comments but constructive criticism is more than welcome) :-)
http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=17503006602 http://www.urcity.com/survey/index.php?user=45766208972
Thank you for taking the time to consider and i eagerly waiting to hear back from you :-)
Best regards, Michail Tsikerdekis PhD student at Masaryk University, Faculty of Informatics Brno, Czech Republic
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most active Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members?
Dario
I would say that 1,000 people is too many to use the email function.
This discussion fizzled out, but I'm hoping we could move it to the talk page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...) to reach a conclusion.
Dario & Steven, would you be willing to re-post your opinions there?
-Aaron
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most active Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members?
Dario
I would say that 1,000 people is too many to use the email function.
-- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
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All,
this request is still marked as pending approval:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...
I invite you to send your feedback or express any concern you may have with this project by Friday, we'll flag it as reviewed otherwise.
Dario
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
This discussion fizzled out, but I'm hoping we could move it to the talk page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...) to reach a conclusion.
Dario & Steven, would you be willing to re-post your opinions there?
-Aaron
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most active Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members?
Dario
I would say that 1,000 people is too many to use the email function.
-- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
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This one desperately needs review as well since the researcher is hoping to send over hundreds of emails to editors in order to solicit their participation. I've added my thoughts to the talk page.
-Aaron
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
All,
this request is still marked as pending approval:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...
I invite you to send your feedback or express any concern you may have with this project by Friday, we'll flag it as reviewed otherwise.
Dario
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
This discussion fizzled out, but I'm hoping we could move it to the talk page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...) to reach a conclusion.
Dario & Steven, would you be willing to re-post your opinions there?
-Aaron
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most active Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members?
Dario
I would say that 1,000 people is too many to use the email function.
-- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
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I have added my comments and I don't have any ethical objections. However, I find this research of little value to the Wikipedia community. It's generic online behavior and if we are going to open our community for this kind of research then we will run out of volunteers soon as well. Best, Diederik
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
This one desperately needs review as well since the researcher is hoping to send over hundreds of emails to editors in order to solicit their participation. I've added my thoughts to the talk page. -Aaron
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
All, this request is still marked as pending approval:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...
I invite you to send your feedback or express any concern you may have with this project by Friday, we'll flag it as reviewed otherwise. Dario On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
This discussion fizzled out, but I'm hoping we could move it to the talk page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t... reach a conclusion. Dario & Steven, would you be willing to re-post your opinions there? -Aaron
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most active Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members? Dario
I would say that 1,000 people is too many to use the email function.
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I would say this research *does* have value for the community. The way in which people reason about dealing with issues and problematic people as a community with anonymity/pseudonymity is relevant to managing a community like Wikipedia.
If the researcher wants to randomly sample 1000 users, we could do that every day of the year without overlap if we could be intelligent about it.
-Aaron
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@gmail.comwrote:
I have added my comments and I don't have any ethical objections. However, I find this research of little value to the Wikipedia community. It's generic online behavior and if we are going to open our community for this kind of research then we will run out of volunteers soon as well. Best, Diederik
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
This one desperately needs review as well since the researcher is hoping
to
send over hundreds of emails to editors in order to solicit their participation. I've added my thoughts to the talk page. -Aaron
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
All, this request is still marked as pending approval:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t...
I invite you to send your feedback or express any concern you may have with this project by Friday, we'll flag it as reviewed otherwise. Dario On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
This discussion fizzled out, but I'm hoping we could move it to the talk page (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Anonymity_and_conformity_over_t... ) to
reach a conclusion. Dario & Steven, would you be willing to re-post your opinions there? -Aaron
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steven Walling <
swalling@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
agreed – emailing 1,000 users sounds borderline (we had a similar discussion for another project, but that was recruiting from the most
active
Wikipedians [1]). Any comment from other RCom community members? Dario
I would say that 1,000 people is too many to use the email function.
-- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
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