Hola!
I hope that you are fine.
I did my homework, so here you have a suggestion of template for the Directory of research projects (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_for_research_projects), issue to be discussed at out next chat meeting (Feb 25).
However, to me it remains several aspects to be defined before hands. That is:
* The scope of the Research Projects directory: Now the scope is defined as: "This is the canonical directory of Wikimedia research projects that are underway or have recently been completed. Research projects are documented on many different wikis, but should all be findable through this page. To qualify for inclusion in this list, a project should be significant in scope and ethical in nature (according to the guidelines [to be] developed by the Research Committee)." It remains still the need to define the goals of the Research Project Directory and why it makes sense to create it (i.e the problematics linked to research projects and how this research project directory can help to overcome them, etc). * The need to define the criteria for inclusion (the above mentioned guidelines) and who or with which process a research project might pass the "test" of fullfilling the guidelines.
"Chat" you on Friday! Mayo
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»
Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info
Ph.D European University Institute Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies. Autonomous University of Barcelona. Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of Catalonia (UOC). Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of California, Berkeley. Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.onlinecreation.info E-mail: mayo.fuster@eui.eu Skype: mayoneti Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748 ________________________________________ From: rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Halfaker [aaron.halfaker@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2011 19:26 To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list Subject: [RCom-l] The Subject Recruitment Approvals Group moved to meta
Hey folks,
As part of my work in the Subject Recruitment Area of Interest, I've converted the enwp version of the Subject Recruitment Approvals Group to meta and dropped the language about the SubjectRecruitmentBot.
See the page here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Subject_Recruitment_Approvals_Group
I'd like to talk about this approach to managing recruitment request to Wikimedia project users at our next meeting so please have a look before then.
Thanks, -Aaron
Although I think a directory of past and present research projects is a great idea and something that is sorely needed, I'm worried that it will end up under-maintained.
I wonder if this projects directory can become part of a larger thing with SRAG (and SRAG can be broadened to account for non-subject recruitment research). Essentially, if a project is reviewed and approved by a group of interested Wikipedians, it meets the criteria to be added to the list. As part of the (pseudo)official endorsement, researchers would be required to keep their listing up-to-date and link to their published work or meet the fury of the community the next time they want to do research.
The benefit to researchers would be that their work is listed among those endorsed by the community which gives them credibility and a bit more impact.
A problem I foresee is that previous work wouldn't be listed. Maybe that is alright and we only want to focus on currently active projects.
-Aaron
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Fuster, Mayo Mayo.Fuster@eui.eu wrote:
Hola!
I hope that you are fine.
I did my homework, so here you have a suggestion of template for the Directory of research projects ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_for_research_projects), issue to be discussed at out next chat meeting (Feb 25).
However, to me it remains several aspects to be defined before hands. That is:
- The scope of the Research Projects directory: Now the scope is defined
as: "This is the canonical directory of Wikimedia research projects that are underway or have recently been completed. Research projects are documented on many different wikis, but should all be findable through this page. To qualify for inclusion in this list, a project should be significant in scope and ethical in nature (according to the guidelines [to be] developed by the Research Committee)." It remains still the need to define the goals of the Research Project Directory and why it makes sense to create it (i.e the problematics linked to research projects and how this research project directory can help to overcome them, etc).
- The need to define the criteria for inclusion (the above mentioned
guidelines) and who or with which process a research project might pass the "test" of fullfilling the guidelines.
"Chat" you on Friday! Mayo
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»
Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info
Ph.D European University Institute Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies. Autonomous University of Barcelona. Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of Catalonia (UOC). Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of California, Berkeley. Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.onlinecreation.info E-mail: mayo.fuster@eui.eu Skype: mayoneti Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748 ________________________________________ From: rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [ rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Halfaker [ aaron.halfaker@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2011 19:26 To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list Subject: [RCom-l] The Subject Recruitment Approvals Group moved to meta
Hey folks,
As part of my work in the Subject Recruitment Area of Interest, I've converted the enwp version of the Subject Recruitment Approvals Group to meta and dropped the language about the SubjectRecruitmentBot.
See the page here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Subject_Recruitment_Approvals_Group
I'd like to talk about this approach to managing recruitment request to Wikimedia project users at our next meeting so please have a look before then.
Thanks, -Aaron
RCom-l mailing list RCom-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l
Hi Mayo,
many thanks for getting this started, I'll add further comments on the Meta page. I second Aaron's concerns and we need to think of some clever ways to make the directory self-sustainable. Incentives related to visibility might play an important role among researchers (especially if we say that projects listed in the directory will be given further visibility, once the results are published, via other Wikimedia outlets: blogs, mailing lists, the Signpost, official twitter accounts), but other ideas are welcome.
The scope of the directory is actually broader than SRAG (as it potentially covers studies that do not need subject recruitment, such as research based on the dumps, qualitative research based on direct analysis of Wikimedia contents etc.), but I'd love add this to the SRAG wishlist. More generally, we should make it mandatory for projects falling in the "significant WMF support" category (i.e. projects requesting dedicated engineer effort, special permissions, advertising) to fill in an entry in the directory and help maintain it across the duration of the project. This should be part of the requirements (or at least recommendations) we devise for these projects, on top of an open access publication policy.
Dario
On 22 Feb 2011, at 17:07, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
Although I think a directory of past and present research projects is a great idea and something that is sorely needed, I'm worried that it will end up under-maintained.
I wonder if this projects directory can become part of a larger thing with SRAG (and SRAG can be broadened to account for non-subject recruitment research). Essentially, if a project is reviewed and approved by a group of interested Wikipedians, it meets the criteria to be added to the list. As part of the (pseudo)official endorsement, researchers would be required to keep their listing up-to-date and link to their published work or meet the fury of the community the next time they want to do research.
The benefit to researchers would be that their work is listed among those endorsed by the community which gives them credibility and a bit more impact.
A problem I foresee is that previous work wouldn't be listed. Maybe that is alright and we only want to focus on currently active projects.
-Aaron
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Fuster, Mayo Mayo.Fuster@eui.eu wrote: Hola!
I hope that you are fine.
I did my homework, so here you have a suggestion of template for the Directory of research projects (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_for_research_projects), issue to be discussed at out next chat meeting (Feb 25).
However, to me it remains several aspects to be defined before hands. That is:
- The scope of the Research Projects directory: Now the scope is defined as: "This is the canonical directory of Wikimedia research projects that are underway or have recently been completed. Research projects are documented on many different wikis, but should all be findable through this page. To qualify for inclusion in this list, a project should be significant in scope and ethical in nature (according to the guidelines [to be] developed by the Research Committee)." It remains still the need to define the goals of the Research Project Directory and why it makes sense to create it (i.e the problematics linked to research projects and how this research project directory can help to overcome them, etc).
- The need to define the criteria for inclusion (the above mentioned guidelines) and who or with which process a research project might pass the "test" of fullfilling the guidelines.
"Chat" you on Friday! Mayo
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»
Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info
Ph.D European University Institute Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies. Autonomous University of Barcelona. Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of Catalonia (UOC). Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of California, Berkeley. Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.onlinecreation.info E-mail: mayo.fuster@eui.eu Skype: mayoneti Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748 ________________________________________ From: rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Halfaker [aaron.halfaker@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2011 19:26 To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list Subject: [RCom-l] The Subject Recruitment Approvals Group moved to meta
Hey folks,
As part of my work in the Subject Recruitment Area of Interest, I've converted the enwp version of the Subject Recruitment Approvals Group to meta and dropped the language about the SubjectRecruitmentBot.
See the page here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Subject_Recruitment_Approvals_Group
I'd like to talk about this approach to managing recruitment request to Wikimedia project users at our next meeting so please have a look before then.
Thanks, -Aaron
RCom-l mailing list RCom-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/rcom-l
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2011/2/22 Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org:
Hi Mayo, many thanks for getting this started, I'll add further comments on the Meta page. I second Aaron's concerns and we need to think of some clever ways to make the directory self-sustainable. Incentives related to visibility might play an important role among researchers (especially if we say that projects listed in the directory will be given further visibility, once the results are published, via other Wikimedia outlets: blogs, mailing lists, the Signpost, official twitter accounts), but other ideas are welcome.
Agreed. Dario and I will ensure that research undertaken directly by WMF will always be reflected in the project list, but we definitely have to think about what will motivate others to have their projects listed on this page, and where it should be a required part of the process (e.g. SRAG approval, access to WMF computational resources).