Hello, and once again, to all, very good work on Quarto :)

Anthere has already posted my mail and her reply to this list, which I've pasted below. It sounds like just one mailing list is needed if option one is the way to go (which i agree with - a link to the foundation page is probably enough, though Anthere suggests it would be "interesting" if editors didnt come to the foundation page. Is that a good interesting or a bad one?)

If this is the case, won't we then need to direct each user who is interested to register themselves to this list? As far as I can tell each list is self-registered. Like I said, I'll post a message to users' talk pages so they can do this themselves, though i can't do this until the list is set up. And before I ask user:Fire to set one up, can i ask if there are any suggestions as to what to call it? Anthere suggests: 'Information from the Wikimedia Foundation'. Any opinions/suggestions?

Then we need the text to go in the mail, eg. The (nth) edition of the Wikimedia Foundation Quarto newsletter is [here]! Find out about [what's happening] around our multilingual projects, read about [Wikimania] and [other meetups] worldwide, check out our [interiew with Lawrence Lessig], and [more]. Ok, it's a bit cheesy, but that's my (user)name! And then get this translated - I can do Spanish.. Then formatted - again i can just about work with Dreamweaver but i don't know how best to format for email and how to actually go about posting an email like that, so i'll need some help.

That's just repeating what Anthere's said but I'd appreciate any further comments. Cheers Cormac

Anthere wrote: Hello

Thank you very much for your mail Cormac.. I hope you do not mind that I forward it to quarto-l@wikimedia.org (I hope...). And thanks for the nice comment :-)

Your help would be more than welcome for that till now, no one had the time to take care of this point.

We discussed it a bit on irc yesterday after I informed Sj, Britty and others of your desire to help on this.

Current situation is this one : we do not have yet the pdf of Quarto, for a couple of reasons. First, nobody yet took the time to make a pdf from each version, second, Kate mentionned that pdf was a proprietary format...and we cannot host it on meta...

There are three ways we can inform people

* option 1 : either we send them an informative mail, with all relevant links to the place they can find Quarto when it is released

* option 2 : or we send them a mail with the pdf attached

* option 3 : or we send them a mail with a text version included

In options 2 and 3, editors will never come to the foundation site, which might be potentially interesting.

In options 2 and 3, we absolutely need to know the language desired by the editor, and either an different list for each language, or a database tweak so that the right mail is sent depending on language preference.

In option 2, the mail can be quite heavy, which not every box accept nor every editor likes. We also need someone to make the pdf

In option 3, the mail is not very heavy, but we still need someone to prepare all texts

Hmmm, normally, we try to release versions in 10 languages...

In all cases

* we need someone to set up at least one mailing list (with restriction in terms of who can send the mail or not)

* we need someone to gather all emails addresses from interested people

* we need someone to enter all these emails addresses in the list of recipiendaries

* we need someone to admin the list

* we need someone to set up the content of the mail

In option 1, the mail sent could consist in a short collection of paragraphs, announcing the Quarto, and offering appropriate links. Each paragraph in a different language. A neat html outline could be set up for this mail to look decent even though in 10 languages, and we could just have to change links and a couple of words each time we send a mail. That would be the most efficient way I think.

Yesterday discussion led us to think that we should first try to organise option 1 (general mail in 10 languages with links, to be sent to everyone). This would be a first step. The other options need more thought and discussion right now.

What do you think ?

If you are still interested (I hope), you can register to quarto-l, or comment on meta. The person in charge of all mailing lists set up is user:Fire (see is meta account). Aphaia is the contact for all translation needs. Sj for ... in this case ... to help set up the content of the mail of course ! Who is a html wizard to make us a nice layout for the mail ?

Last comment : I would prefer that the list as a quite explicit but generalist name. I care little for the short name, but it would be nice it appears to readers as something like "Information from the Wikimedia Foundation", or something of the type. The idea is to make it possible if exceptional circonstances arise, to send a specific mail not directly related to Quarto if it is thought necessary.

What do you people think and suggest ?

Cormac Lawler cormaggio@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hello, I noticed that quite a few people have asked that the Wikimedia newsletter Quarto be sent to them via email and that you asked whether a mailing list could be set up for those that have added their name. A problem would be that the newsletter is being requested in several languages - i don't know how this works, but would this mean that a separate mailing list would have to be set up for each language newsletter? Or maybe it would be possible to link it to a database of some sort? I tried to contact an overall list admin but there doesn't seem to be one - should I email someone like David Gerard, or Sj? If a mailing list is created, I volunteer to add a note to each person's talk page who has made a request. Thanks, Cormac Lawler User:Cormaggio (en,m)

PS: Brilliant work on Quarto, and i especially like your comments in your board-member letter - lovely