Hello, and once again, to all, very good work on Quarto :)
Anthere has already posted my mail and her reply to this list, which
I've pasted below. It sounds like just one mailing list is needed if
option one is the way to go (which i agree with - a link to the
foundation page is probably enough, though Anthere suggests it would
be "interesting" if editors didnt come to the foundation page. Is that
a good interesting or a bad one?)
If this is the case, won't we then need to direct each user who is
interested to register themselves to this list? As far as I can tell
each list is self-registered. Like I said, I'll post a message to
users' talk pages so they can do this themselves, though i can't do
this until the list is set up. And before I ask user:Fire to set one
up, can i ask if there are any suggestions as to what to call it?
Anthere suggests: 'Information from the Wikimedia Foundation'. Any
opinions/suggestions?
Then we need the text to go in the mail, eg. The (nth) edition of the
Wikimedia Foundation Quarto newsletter is [here]! Find out about
[what's happening] around our multilingual projects, read about
[Wikimania] and [other meetups] worldwide, check out our [interiew
with Lawrence Lessig], and [more]. Ok, it's a bit cheesy, but that's
my (user)name! And then get this translated - I can do Spanish.. Then
formatted - again i can just about work with Dreamweaver but i don't
know how best to format for email and how to actually go about posting
an email like that, so i'll need some help.
That's just repeating what Anthere's said but I'd appreciate any
further comments. Cheers
Cormac
Anthere wrote:
Hello
Thank you very much for your mail Cormac.. I hope you do not mind that
I forward it to quarto-l(a)wikimedia.org (I hope...). And thanks for the
nice comment :-)
Your help would be more than welcome for that till now, no one had the
time to take care of this point.
We discussed it a bit on irc yesterday after I informed Sj, Britty and
others of your desire to help on this.
Current situation is this one : we do not have yet the pdf of Quarto,
for a couple of reasons. First, nobody yet took the time to make a pdf
from each version, second, Kate mentionned that pdf was a proprietary
format...and we cannot host it on meta...
There are three ways we can inform people
* option 1 : either we send them an informative mail, with all
relevant links to the place they can find Quarto when it is released
* option 2 : or we send them a mail with the pdf attached
* option 3 : or we send them a mail with a text version included
In options 2 and 3, editors will never come to the foundation site,
which might be potentially interesting.
In options 2 and 3, we absolutely need to know the language desired by
the editor, and either an different list for each language, or a
database tweak so that the right mail is sent depending on language
preference.
In option 2, the mail can be quite heavy, which not every box accept
nor every editor likes. We also need someone to make the pdf
In option 3, the mail is not very heavy, but we still need someone to
prepare all texts
Hmmm, normally, we try to release versions in 10 languages...
In all cases
* we need someone to set up at least one mailing list (with
restriction in terms of who can send the mail or not)
* we need someone to gather all emails addresses from interested people
* we need someone to enter all these emails addresses in the list of
recipiendaries
* we need someone to admin the list
* we need someone to set up the content of the mail
In option 1, the mail sent could consist in a short collection of
paragraphs, announcing the Quarto, and offering appropriate links.
Each paragraph in a different language. A neat html outline could be
set up for this mail to look decent even though in 10 languages, and
we could just have to change links and a couple of words each time we
send a mail. That would be the most efficient way I think.
Yesterday discussion led us to think that we should first try to
organise option 1 (general mail in 10 languages with links, to be sent
to everyone). This would be a first step. The other options need more
thought and discussion right now.
What do you think ?
If you are still interested (I hope), you can register to quarto-l, or
comment on meta. The person in charge of all mailing lists set up is
user:Fire (see is meta account). Aphaia is the contact for all
translation needs. Sj for ... in this case ... to help set up the
content of the mail of course ! Who is a html wizard to make us a nice
layout for the mail ?
Last comment : I would prefer that the list as a quite explicit but
generalist name. I care little for the short name, but it would be
nice it appears to readers as something like "Information from the
Wikimedia Foundation", or something of the type. The idea is to make
it possible if exceptional circonstances arise, to send a specific
mail not directly related to Quarto if it is thought necessary.
What do you people think and suggest ?
Cormac Lawler <cormaggio(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hello,
I noticed that quite a few people have asked that the
Wikimedia newsletter Quarto be sent to them via email
and that you asked whether a mailing list could be set
up
for those that have added their name. A problem would
be that the newsletter is being requested in several
languages - i don't know how this works, but would
this mean that a separate mailing
list would have to be set up for each language
newsletter? Or maybe it would be possible to link it
to a database
of some sort? I tried to contact an overall list admin
but there doesn't seem to be one - should I email
someone like David Gerard, or Sj?
If a mailing list is created, I volunteer to add a
note to each person's talk page who has made a
request.
Thanks,
Cormac Lawler
User:Cormaggio (en,m)
PS: Brilliant work on Quarto, and i especially like
your comments in your board-member letter - lovely