In one week bugzilla will move to phabricator.
I am still not friend with phabricator, and I am not able to find how to report bugs about pywikipedia. Is somewhere something about it, some project etc?
JAnD
In a lucky case we will loose the tracked e-mail threads again. Once on SF when I opened a new bug or contributed to one, I immediately marked the e-mail coming from SF with a label, and in Gmail all subsequent mails were automatically marked as well, so I could easily track my bugs. With moving to Bugzilla I lost all of them, and tried to get them back one by one. Now this is a great opportunity to begin from sratch again. I really do enjoy this ethernal moving from site to site, from version system to version system, and I would like to propose to make it every month, just for fun.
2014-11-14 8:03 GMT+01:00 Jan Dudík jan.dudik@gmail.com:
In one week bugzilla will move to phabricator.
I am still not friend with phabricator, and I am not able to find how to report bugs about pywikipedia. Is somewhere something about it, some project etc?
JAnD
Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l
If you are using the mailing list (pywikipedia-bugs) to track bugs you don't need to worry, All of the phabricators e-mails will go through the old mailing list and won't change for you. If you worry about bugs that you are cc'd and maybe you'll lose it the only thing you need to do is making an account with the same e-mail in phabricator (even you can add your e-mail address in an existing account phabrictor supports multiple e-mails for one account).
If you worry about how you can report bugs, there are several helps like this session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpkHyCGX1Y. but TLDR (maybe TLDW, dont watch): when you want to file a bug there is an option named project, Add "pywikibot" and it will be in pywikibot bugs.
Best
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
In a lucky case we will loose the tracked e-mail threads again. Once on SF when I opened a new bug or contributed to one, I immediately marked the e-mail coming from SF with a label, and in Gmail all subsequent mails were automatically marked as well, so I could easily track my bugs. With moving to Bugzilla I lost all of them, and tried to get them back one by one. Now this is a great opportunity to begin from sratch again. I really do enjoy this ethernal moving from site to site, from version system to version system, and I would like to propose to make it every month, just for fun.
2014-11-14 8:03 GMT+01:00 Jan Dudík jan.dudik@gmail.com:
In one week bugzilla will move to phabricator.
I am still not friend with phabricator, and I am not able to find how to report bugs about pywikipedia. Is somewhere something about it, some project etc?
JAnD
Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l
-- Bináris
Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l
Hi,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 11:39 +0330, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
If you are using the mailing list (pywikipedia-bugs) to track bugs you don't need to worry, All of the phabricators e-mails will go through the old mailing list and won't change for you.
For the records, this is tracked in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496
If you worry about bugs that you are cc'd and maybe you'll lose it the only thing you need to do is making an account with the same e-mail in phabricator (even you can add your e-mail address in an existing account phabrictor supports multiple e-mails for one account).
We migrate the information in the CC field of a Bugzilla ticket and we will "connect" your previous Bugzilla account with your Phab account once you have claimed it (which we recommend to do before the migration starting next Friday): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Claiming_your_previous_Bugzi...
However we will NOT migrate "default CCs" of Bugzilla components (if a Bugzilla administrator has set you as a default CC in the past). You will have to "watch" or "join" the project(s) that you are interested in in Phab again: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Missing_data
andre
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 11:39 +0330, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
If you are using the mailing list (pywikipedia-bugs) to track bugs you don't need to worry, All of the phabricators e-mails will go through the old mailing list and won't change for you.
For the records, this is tracked in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496
If you worry about bugs that you are cc'd and maybe you'll lose it the only thing you need to do is making an account with the same e-mail in phabricator (even you can add your e-mail address in an existing account phabrictor supports multiple e-mails for one account).
We migrate the information in the CC field of a Bugzilla ticket and we will "connect" your previous Bugzilla account with your Phab account once you have claimed it (which we recommend to do before the migration starting next Friday): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Claiming_your_previous_Bugzi...
However we will NOT migrate "default CCs" of Bugzilla components (if a Bugzilla administrator has set you as a default CC in the past). You will have to "watch" or "join" the project(s) that you are interested in in Phab again: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Missing_data
Wow .. 'version' wont be migrated? I think that is quite important for pywiki bugs, and have asked for more info onwiki.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:S648xvfba8003tio
-- John Vandenberg
Filed that as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1282 with blocker for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T15.
On 14 November 2014 22:49, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 11:39 +0330, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
If you are using the mailing list (pywikipedia-bugs) to track bugs you don't need to worry, All of the phabricators e-mails will go through the old mailing list and won't change for you.
For the records, this is tracked in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496
If you worry about bugs that you are cc'd and maybe you'll lose it the only thing you need to do is making an account with the same e-mail in phabricator (even you can add your e-mail address in an existing account phabrictor supports multiple e-mails for one account).
We migrate the information in the CC field of a Bugzilla ticket and we will "connect" your previous Bugzilla account with your Phab account once you have claimed it (which we recommend to do before the migration starting next Friday): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Claiming_your_previous_Bugzi...
However we will NOT migrate "default CCs" of Bugzilla components (if a Bugzilla administrator has set you as a default CC in the past). You will have to "watch" or "join" the project(s) that you are interested in in Phab again: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Missing_data
Wow .. 'version' wont be migrated? I think that is quite important for pywiki bugs, and have asked for more info onwiki.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:S648xvfba8003tio
-- John Vandenberg
Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 23:20 +0100, Merlijn van Deen wrote:
Filed that as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1282 with blocker for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T15.
On 14 November 2014 22:49, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Wow .. 'version' wont be migrated? I think that is quite important for pywiki bugs, and have asked for more info onwiki.
As I wrote in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1282#22636 , I also recommend that I rename the two Bugzilla Version field entries before we migrate on Friday, for easier finding in Phabricator: * "compat (1.0)" → "compat-(1.0)" * "core (2.0)" → "core-(2.0)"
Is everybody okay with this? Feedback needed.
andre
I have no opinion. I do not know the tools, so if you say that renaming is better, I trust you.
Mpaa
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 23:20 +0100, Merlijn van Deen wrote:
Filed that as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1282 with blocker for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T15.
On 14 November 2014 22:49, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow .. 'version' wont be migrated? I think that is quite important for pywiki bugs, and have asked for more info onwiki.
As I wrote in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1282#22636 , I also recommend that I rename the two Bugzilla Version field entries before we migrate on Friday, for easier finding in Phabricator:
- "compat (1.0)" → "compat-(1.0)"
- "core (2.0)" → "core-(2.0)"
Is everybody okay with this? Feedback needed.
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l
On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 14:08 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
As I wrote in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1282#22636 , I also recommend that I rename the two Bugzilla Version field entries before we migrate on Friday, for easier finding in Phabricator:
- "compat (1.0)" → "compat-(1.0)"
- "core (2.0)" → "core-(2.0)"
Is everybody okay with this? Feedback needed.
For the records, I've performed that renaming now.
andre
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
In a lucky case we will loose the tracked e-mail threads again. Once on SF when I opened a new bug or contributed to one, I immediately marked the e-mail coming from SF with a label, and in Gmail all subsequent mails were automatically marked as well, so I could easily track my bugs. With moving to Bugzilla I lost all of them, and tried to get them back one by one. Now this is a great opportunity to begin from sratch again. I really do enjoy this ethernal moving from site to site, from version system to version system, and I would like to propose to make it every month, just for fun.
I share your enthusiasm for this migration. I stopped contributing to pywiki because of the last migration; my account was disabled in the process and I couldnt be bothered figuring out how to rectify it .. or who was responsible.
Is there no way for us to opt-out .. ? It would be nice to keep using Bugzilla until we've released a stable 2.0.
Also, maybe we should consider migrating to github instead, as it provides a similar suite of tools, and probably some that phabricator doesnt have. e.g. the ability to edit source files in via a web browser, and everyone has their own online repo, and everyone else can see everyones changes, and pull from each other, etc. Not to mention a large developer base that doesnt have a Wikimedia account and probably wont create one in order to submit a minor patch.
Anyone can clone the main repo, make a change, and send their changes to travis-ci to be tested. e.g. https://travis-ci.org/jayvdb/pywikibot-core/builds
Hi,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 08:23 +0100, Bináris wrote:
In a lucky case we will loose the tracked e-mail threads again. Once on SF when I opened a new bug or contributed to one, I immediately marked the e-mail coming from SF with a label, and in Gmail all subsequent mails were automatically marked as well, so I could easily track my bugs.
I don't think that I can help in some way to keep your tracked threads or GMail labels consistent because the email thread IDs will break. Sorry but I don't see a way to work around this easily. :(
I really do enjoy this ethernal moving from site to site, from version system to version system, and I would like to propose to make it every month, just for fun.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla lists the reasons for the migration. It also links to the "Past steps" of the last 12 months which lead to the community's decision to move to Phabricator.
andre
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 08:23 +0100, Bináris wrote:
In a lucky case we will loose the tracked e-mail threads again. Once on SF when I opened a new bug or contributed to one, I immediately marked the e-mail coming from SF with a label, and in Gmail all subsequent mails were automatically marked as well, so I could easily track my bugs.
I don't think that I can help in some way to keep your tracked threads or GMail labels consistent because the email thread IDs will break. Sorry but I don't see a way to work around this easily. :(
AFAIK if any e-mail coming from phabricator or even bugzilla comes to your
mailbox and you select it and click on "Filter messages like this" in "More" options you can create a filter to label them easily (I use this way in my google account) I don't know what's wrong with this. Bináris: Can you explain more?
I really do enjoy this ethernal moving from site to site, from version system to version system, and I would like to propose to make it every month, just for fun.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla lists the reasons for the migration. It also links to the "Past steps" of the last 12 months which lead to the community's decision to move to Phabricator.
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l
Best
2014-11-14 20:46 GMT+01:00 Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com:
AFAIK if any e-mail coming from phabricator or even bugzilla comes to your mailbox and you select it and click on "Filter messages like this" in "More" options you can create a filter to label them easily (I use this way in my google account) I don't know what's wrong with this. Bináris: Can you explain more?
I think it is really about thread IDs which may not remain the same if the mails come from another server. I don't want to create filters thread by thread by the content, so I have to accept the facts. Well, the sun is still shining and there is peace. :-)
Thank you for the answers! As far as I see I am not alone with the wish to spend my time with developing Pywiki (which I didn't do since dropping SVN) instead of preparing for developing and finding out annoying technical details.
2014-11-14 20:12 GMT+01:00 Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla lists the reasons for the migration. It also links to the "Past steps" of the last 12 months which lead to the community's decision to move to Phabricator.
I don't want to complain more, just for the log: this decision was not that of Pywiki community. We were just glued to MW community and their preferences.
Ahoj,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 08:03 +0100, Jan Dudík wrote:
In one week bugzilla will move to phabricator.
I am still not friend with phabricator, and I am not able to find how to report bugs about pywikipedia. Is somewhere something about it, some project etc?
"Product-Component" pairs in Bugzilla will be migrated to projects in Phabricator. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Pywikibot for the current list of Pywikibot components. Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Bugzilla_data_mig...
For example, Bugzilla product "Pywikibot" and Bugzilla component "General" will become the Phabricator project "Pywikibot-General". A direct link to file a task (new term for "bug report") will be https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Pywikibot-... after the migration has finished.
For general information also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help - if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on the talk page.
andre
But there is no Pywikibot project now, and so we have low possibility to compare bugzilla and phabricator on the same bug :-(
JAnD
2014-11-14 20:12 GMT+01:00 Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org:
Ahoj,
On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 08:03 +0100, Jan Dudík wrote:
In one week bugzilla will move to phabricator.
I am still not friend with phabricator, and I am not able to find how to report bugs about pywikipedia. Is somewhere something about it, some project etc?
"Product-Component" pairs in Bugzilla will be migrated to projects in Phabricator. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Pywikibot for the current list of Pywikibot components. Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Bugzilla_data_mig...
For example, Bugzilla product "Pywikibot" and Bugzilla component "General" will become the Phabricator project "Pywikibot-General". A direct link to file a task (new term for "bug report") will be https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Pywikibot-... after the migration has finished.
For general information also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help - if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on the talk page.
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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