[ pywikipediabot-Feature Requests-3528379 ] redirect.py logging of problems that cannot be fixed - Pywikipedia-bugs

4 Jul 2012


      Feature Requests item #3528379, was opened at 2012-05-20 04:31
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Submitted By: ToAruShiroiNeko ()
Assigned to: xqt (xqt)
Summary: redirect.py logging of problems that cannot be fixed
Initial Comment:
redirect.py needs to log issues it is unable to fix and why on each wiki. There are several flavors of problems that appears on Special:Doubleredirects
1. Self redirects (redirects that point to themselves)
2. Redirect loops (redirects that go in circles)
3. Double redirects formed due to page protection.
4. Inter-wiki redirects (redirects that point to redirects in other wikis)
It would be a lot easier if I had a log of these pages and user can post it on the village pump or perhaps bot can do this monthly for a select number of wikis. The code already provides a warning on the console but when you are running it on 700 wikis like me that becomes a serious chore to follow.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt)
Date: 2012-07-03 22:40
Message:
If there is nobody who can deal with these special pages, there is no
reason to post it again on the village pumb. I guess a better way is to
solve the remaining problems if possible. This means for redirect loops and
self links:
- check whether there is any possibility to solve the redirect link to a
new page
- otherwise tag it for speedy deletion.
I worked on that and the code is ready and I did som test edits in past. I
guess I'll commit it in autumn into rewrite.
example of the current working copy working:
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USB-on-the-go <<<
Links to: [[USB-on-the-go]].
Warning: Redirect target [[USB-on-the-go]] forms a redirect loop.
NOTE: Searching for USB-on-the-go
1 - ratio 0.692308 1 USB On-The-Go
20 - ratio 0.222222 90 Mobile operating system
18 - ratio 0.181818 99 Universal Serial Bus
10 - ratio 0.300000 33 USB 3.0
13 - ratio 0.285714 45 Live USB
17 - ratio 0.228571 74 USB Implementers Forum
10 - ratio 0.153846 65 Windows To Go
11 - ratio 0.357143 30 USB flash drive
19 - ratio 0.176471 107 Handheld game console
21 - ratio 0.157895 133 Features new to Windows 8
1 (1) USB On-The-Go
[[en:USB-on-the-go]] may lead to [[en:USB On-The-Go]]
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Comment By: ToAruShiroiNeko ()
Date: 2012-07-02 06:47
Message:
When you are plowing through 700 wikis even simple tasks become difficult.
A compiled report would let me know which wikis to notify that human
intervention is necessarily on which pages which can denote the type of
intervention necessary. The prepared report could be language specific so
es.Wikipedia would get a report in Spanish, de.Wikipedia would get a report
in German, etc.
Protected redirects are a problem particularly as they appear like stuff
bots can fix but they can't because bots are unable to edit protected
pages. This is not one of your examples. Special:Doubleredirects makes no
distinction for this type of problem.
Redirect loops may be more than 2 pages. Among 200 entries such a thing
could be difficult to spot.
Also while how to deal with redirect loops is obvious to you and me, admins
in local communities are often more than uneasy in dealing with this issue
they are not familiar with.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt)
Date: 2012-07-01 20:38
Message:
There are several bot who work on double redirects several time a day. The
remaining items might be redirect loops or self redirects. e.g.
Foo --> Foo --> Foo
are always self loops
Foo --> Bar --> Foo
Bar --> Foo --> Bar
are always redirect loops
is it difficult?
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Comment By: ToAruShiroiNeko ()
Date: 2012-07-01 11:34
Message:
It isn't easy to distinguish they just appear like redirects bot can fix. I
want to have the option in the code to log that and post this to the
village pump for local communities attention.
It is very difficult for me to do that by hand on 700 wikis of which most
don't even need my attention.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt)
Date: 2012-07-01 06:31
Message:
They remain in Special:DoubleRedirects and must be fixed by hand or deleted
by admins. It is easy to distinguish between multiple redirects and
redirect loops and there is no need to explain it outside.
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Comment By: ToAruShiroiNeko ()
Date: 2012-06-30 17:20
Message:
How is keeping track of problems bots are unable to fix a duplication of
Special:DoubleRedirect's?
You asked me to file this bug request after I explained the problem I was
having to you.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt)
Date: 2012-06-18 04:24
Message:
rejected. I do not see any sense for a list duplication of
Special:DoubleRedirects
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Comment By: xqt (xqt)
Date: 2012-05-20 06:36
Message:
1. - 3. are all listed by Special:DoubleRedirects. They are remaining after
the redirect bot cannot solve the problem.
4. Interwiki redirects normally are fixed be interwiki bots except there is
a __STATICREDIRECT__ in the redirect page.
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