Feature Requests item #3528379, was opened at 2012-05-20 04:31 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by xqt You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=603141&aid=3528379...
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: ToAruShiroiNeko () Assigned to: xqt (xqt) Summary: redirect.py logging of problems that cannot be fixed
Initial Comment: redirect.py needs to log issues it is unable to fix and why on each wiki. There are several flavors of problems that appears on Special:Doubleredirects
1. Self redirects (redirects that point to themselves) 2. Redirect loops (redirects that go in circles) 3. Double redirects formed due to page protection. 4. Inter-wiki redirects (redirects that point to redirects in other wikis)
It would be a lot easier if I had a log of these pages and user can post it on the village pump or perhaps bot can do this monthly for a select number of wikis. The code already provides a warning on the console but when you are running it on 700 wikis like me that becomes a serious chore to follow.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt)
Date: 2012-07-03 22:40
Message: If there is nobody who can deal with these special pages, there is no reason to post it again on the village pumb. I guess a better way is to solve the remaining problems if possible. This means for redirect loops and self links: - check whether there is any possibility to solve the redirect link to a new page - otherwise tag it for speedy deletion. I worked on that and the code is ready and I did som test edits in past. I guess I'll commit it in autumn into rewrite.
example of the current working copy working:
USB-on-the-go <<<
Links to: [[USB-on-the-go]]. Warning: Redirect target [[USB-on-the-go]] forms a redirect loop. NOTE: Searching for USB-on-the-go 1 - ratio 0.692308 1 USB On-The-Go 20 - ratio 0.222222 90 Mobile operating system 18 - ratio 0.181818 99 Universal Serial Bus 10 - ratio 0.300000 33 USB 3.0 13 - ratio 0.285714 45 Live USB 17 - ratio 0.228571 74 USB Implementers Forum 10 - ratio 0.153846 65 Windows To Go 11 - ratio 0.357143 30 USB flash drive 19 - ratio 0.176471 107 Handheld game console 21 - ratio 0.157895 133 Features new to Windows 8 1 (1) USB On-The-Go [[en:USB-on-the-go]] may lead to [[en:USB On-The-Go]]
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Comment By: ToAruShiroiNeko () Date: 2012-07-02 06:47
Message: When you are plowing through 700 wikis even simple tasks become difficult. A compiled report would let me know which wikis to notify that human intervention is necessarily on which pages which can denote the type of intervention necessary. The prepared report could be language specific so es.Wikipedia would get a report in Spanish, de.Wikipedia would get a report in German, etc.
Protected redirects are a problem particularly as they appear like stuff bots can fix but they can't because bots are unable to edit protected pages. This is not one of your examples. Special:Doubleredirects makes no distinction for this type of problem.
Redirect loops may be more than 2 pages. Among 200 entries such a thing could be difficult to spot.
Also while how to deal with redirect loops is obvious to you and me, admins in local communities are often more than uneasy in dealing with this issue they are not familiar with.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt) Date: 2012-07-01 20:38
Message: There are several bot who work on double redirects several time a day. The remaining items might be redirect loops or self redirects. e.g.
Foo --> Foo --> Foo are always self loops
Foo --> Bar --> Foo Bar --> Foo --> Bar are always redirect loops
is it difficult?
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Comment By: ToAruShiroiNeko () Date: 2012-07-01 11:34
Message: It isn't easy to distinguish they just appear like redirects bot can fix. I want to have the option in the code to log that and post this to the village pump for local communities attention.
It is very difficult for me to do that by hand on 700 wikis of which most don't even need my attention.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt) Date: 2012-07-01 06:31
Message: They remain in Special:DoubleRedirects and must be fixed by hand or deleted by admins. It is easy to distinguish between multiple redirects and redirect loops and there is no need to explain it outside.
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Comment By: ToAruShiroiNeko () Date: 2012-06-30 17:20
Message: How is keeping track of problems bots are unable to fix a duplication of Special:DoubleRedirect's?
You asked me to file this bug request after I explained the problem I was having to you.
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Comment By: xqt (xqt) Date: 2012-06-18 04:24
Message: rejected. I do not see any sense for a list duplication of Special:DoubleRedirects
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Comment By: xqt (xqt) Date: 2012-05-20 06:36
Message: 1. - 3. are all listed by Special:DoubleRedirects. They are remaining after the redirect bot cannot solve the problem. 4. Interwiki redirects normally are fixed be interwiki bots except there is a __STATICREDIRECT__ in the redirect page.
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