Hi all,
With a lot of help from Brion (thanks :), I've now changed the way that videos are handled on Commons on iOS devices (when browsing from the desktop site). The change will go live on July 15th.
Previously, you clicked play, not much happened. There was a small easily ignored pop-up linking you to a help page, and a play button which in theory linked to the src video file (but in practice was possibly unclickable due to having too low a z-index).
Now, you are directed to install the vlc-for-iOS app. If you have the app already installed, the video will automatically open in the app upon pressing play.
This change will only affect the desktop site, as TimedMediaHandler is totally not loaded at all on the mobile site (However, if you have the vlc app installed, you can download the video from the mobile site, and it should play).
For reference, iOS users represent roughly 11% of our user base. Its unclear how many of those browse the desktop site vs mobile site, although I imagine most use mobile and are not affected by this change :( . Nonetheless, every bit helps.
Cheers, Bawolff
p.s. For reference, relavent links are https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61095 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/144349/
Hi Brian,
Thanks for this improvement, which is much appreciated!
Let us know if you would like us to test this feature before it goes out.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On Jul 7, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
With a lot of help from Brion (thanks :), I've now changed the way that videos are handled on Commons on iOS devices (when browsing from the desktop site). The change will go live on July 15th.
Previously, you clicked play, not much happened. There was a small easily ignored pop-up linking you to a help page, and a play button which in theory linked to the src video file (but in practice was possibly unclickable due to having too low a z-index).
Now, you are directed to install the vlc-for-iOS app. If you have the app already installed, the video will automatically open in the app upon pressing play.
This change will only affect the desktop site, as TimedMediaHandler is totally not loaded at all on the mobile site (However, if you have the vlc app installed, you can download the video from the mobile site, and it should play).
For reference, iOS users represent roughly 11% of our user base. Its unclear how many of those browse the desktop site vs mobile site, although I imagine most use mobile and are not affected by this change :( . Nonetheless, every bit helps.
Cheers, Bawolff
p.s. For reference, relavent links are https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61095 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/144349/
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You're welcome to test it. It should be on beta wiki now, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Jimmy_Wales_Wikipedia_co...
However, beta wiki appears to be exhibiting random issues with TimedMediaHandler that are not present on production (e.g. It claims my browser doesn't support any video format, even though it supports ogg natively + cortado), so its unclear if any issues that occur would be a problem with beta wiki, or a problem with the thing.
--bawolff
On 7/8/14, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Brian,
Thanks for this improvement, which is much appreciated!
Let us know if you would like us to test this feature before it goes out.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On Jul 7, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
With a lot of help from Brion (thanks :), I've now changed the way that videos are handled on Commons on iOS devices (when browsing from the desktop site). The change will go live on July 15th.
Previously, you clicked play, not much happened. There was a small easily ignored pop-up linking you to a help page, and a play button which in theory linked to the src video file (but in practice was possibly unclickable due to having too low a z-index).
Now, you are directed to install the vlc-for-iOS app. If you have the app already installed, the video will automatically open in the app upon pressing play.
This change will only affect the desktop site, as TimedMediaHandler is totally not loaded at all on the mobile site (However, if you have the vlc app installed, you can download the video from the mobile site, and it should play).
For reference, iOS users represent roughly 11% of our user base. Its unclear how many of those browse the desktop site vs mobile site, although I imagine most use mobile and are not affected by this change :( . Nonetheless, every bit helps.
Cheers, Bawolff
p.s. For reference, relavent links are https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61095 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/144349/
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
With a lot of help from Brion (thanks :), I've now changed the way that videos are handled on Commons on iOS devices (when browsing from the desktop site). The change will go live on July 15th.
Previously, you clicked play, not much happened. There was a small easily ignored pop-up linking you to a help page, and a play button which in theory linked to the src video file (but in practice was possibly unclickable due to having too low a z-index).
Now, you are directed to install the vlc-for-iOS app. If you have the app already installed, the video will automatically open in the app upon pressing play.
This change will only affect the desktop site, as TimedMediaHandler is totally not loaded at all on the mobile site (However, if you have the vlc app installed, you can download the video from the mobile site, and it should play).
Awesome, bBawolff. Any progress in freeing up video is good progress. Mobile can catch up to desktop, and Brion is doing great work to free up iOS there. Still a long way to go, and not easy to say the least, but it's progress :)
Awesome, bBawolff. Any progress in freeing up video is good progress. Mobile can catch up to desktop, and Brion is doing great work to free up iOS there. Still a long way to go, and not easy to say the least, but it's progress :)
To be clear - this is for people using mobiles but accessing the "desktop" version of the site. Desktop safari users are still stuck. The issue is that the mobile site removes all javascript from TimedMediaHandler (and I'm hesitant to mark it as "ok for mobile", as people already don't think the TMH js in its current form is ok for desktop. I can't imagine what mobile would think)
Brion's ogv.js work is actually very applicable to the desktop.
--bawolff
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Awesome, bBawolff. Any progress in freeing up video is good progress. Mobile can catch up to desktop, and Brion is doing great work to free up iOS there. Still a long way to go, and not easy to say the least, but
it's
progress :)
To be clear - this is for people using mobiles but accessing the "desktop" version of the site. Desktop safari users are still stuck. The issue is that the mobile site removes all javascript from TimedMediaHandler (and I'm hesitant to mark it as "ok for mobile", as people already don't think the TMH js in its current form is ok for desktop. I can't imagine what mobile would think)
Brion's ogv.js work is actually very applicable to the desktop.
I got the difference, but thanks for clearing that wording up (I steer away from Safari and iOS myself).
We tried to go there with an Iphone but are automatically redirected to the mobile site, which seem to not exist, so there is no way to try to get to the desktopversion.
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2014-07-08 9:10 GMT+02:00 Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com:
Awesome, bBawolff. Any progress in freeing up video is good progress. Mobile can catch up to desktop, and Brion is doing great work to free up iOS there. Still a long way to go, and not easy to say the least, but
it's
progress :)
To be clear - this is for people using mobiles but accessing the "desktop" version of the site. Desktop safari users are still stuck. The issue is that the mobile site removes all javascript from TimedMediaHandler (and I'm hesitant to mark it as "ok for mobile", as people already don't think the TMH js in its current form is ok for desktop. I can't imagine what mobile would think)
Brion's ogv.js work is actually very applicable to the desktop.
--bawolff
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Hi,
It should now be on test.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which should both have "mobile" sites, so that you can opt out of the mobile site.
It will be deployed to commons tomorrow, so soon you can test there too.
Thanks, Brian (bawolff)
On 7/14/14, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
We tried to go there with an Iphone but are automatically redirected to the mobile site, which seem to not exist, so there is no way to try to get to the desktopversion.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-07-08 9:10 GMT+02:00 Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com:
Awesome, bBawolff. Any progress in freeing up video is good progress. Mobile can catch up to desktop, and Brion is doing great work to free up iOS there. Still a long way to go, and not easy to say the least, but
it's
progress :)
To be clear - this is for people using mobiles but accessing the "desktop" version of the site. Desktop safari users are still stuck. The issue is that the mobile site removes all javascript from TimedMediaHandler (and I'm hesitant to mark it as "ok for mobile", as people already don't think the TMH js in its current form is ok for desktop. I can't imagine what mobile would think)
Brion's ogv.js work is actually very applicable to the desktop.
--bawolff
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