Thanks, Jean-Fred,
Glad our updates work for you — we really appreciate your good suggestions and thoughtful questions, as always :)
See my notes below, to complement Mark’s responses.
Cheers,
Fabrice
On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Mark Holmquist mtraceur@member.fsf.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:49:37PM +0100, Jean-Fr?d?ric wrote:
1/ The user story says this is for " manager or community member" does that mean that every user (logged in or not) can query the dashboard ?
The dashboard will be on our metrics site [0], so yes, it will be public.
Our public dashboards are likely to be similar in look and feel to these dashboards we created for Echo Notifications:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/enwiki-features
2/ My understanding is that these metrics will be at a global, site-level - correct ?
Currently it's global, but we could as easily generate data for projects.
We are hoping to generate a few dashboards for individual projects, as recommended in this Mingle card #54:
https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/54
We would like to initially track this data for these sites:
• MediaWiki.org (first pilot site - non-Wikipedia) • Hungarian Wikipedia (or other Wikipedia pilot site TBD) • Wikimedia Commons (large non-Wikipedia site) • English Wikipedia (large Wikipedia site) • French Wikipedia (or other Wikipedia site TBD)
However, it is not practical at this time to implement dashboards for all sites, so we may not go much further than this initially.
Would there be a possiblity to have fancy stats at a finer level? Like, how many times File:Example.jpg was enlarged ? (awesome for GLAM partners) Or How many times any thumb in article [[Barack Obama]] was clicked through (might be intersting for article writers)? etc.
We specifically don't store information like what image was loaded, because with a little magic we could use that information in conjunction with others to determine what a user was looking at at any given time. We were unhappy with this idea, so we deleted [1] loads of information from the schema we're using [2].
3/ When implemented, will the "Share", "Embed" and "Download" feed the dashboard as well ?
We could add clicks on the "use this file" link, but clicks between the "share"/"embed"/"download" tabs may not be super useful. We have no way of determining what information the user actually winds up copying to their clipboard, so it'd be pretty random-looking data IMO.
Jean-Fred: good point!
I just added ‘Use This File’ clicks to the proposed specification on Mingle, so we can count the number of times a user clicked on that button.
I agree with Mark that we cannot track how often they actually share or embed a file, but at least we can find out if users seem interested in this feature.
Hope that helps!
[0] http://multimedia-metrics.wmflabs.org [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schema%3AMediaViewer&diff=6... [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:MediaViewer
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