I recently tried viewing a metavid video[1] but instead of showing a video, my browser displayed the text "[generic_missing_plugin]" where the video should have been. This appears to happen with all metavid videos (I see a lot of "[generic_missing_plugin]" when I visit http://metavid-mike.blogspot.com/).
I am using Firefox 3.0.6 on Ubuntu 8.10. I do not have any Flash plugins installed, nor do I have the VLC plugin installed. However, I do have the Totem plugins installed for a wide variety of media formats. According to my Applications list in Preferences, "Totem Web Browser Plugin" is associated with "Ogg Audio", "Ogg Video", and "Ogg multimedia file". I am able to play Theora/Vorbis files embedded via <object> without any problems through Totem.
Is my setup supported? If not, are there plans to support it? It would be nice to see mv_embed support arbitrary video plugins that claim to play Ogg media.
I am really looking forward to a tool like mv_embed becoming widely-adopted. It would be a huge step toward getting us out of today's online video mess.
Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks.
Denver http://ossguy.com/
1. http://metavid.org/wiki/Stream:Senate_proceeding_09-19-07/4:04:57/4:05:30
Hi Denver,
I have been out of touch with mv_embed for a while, and I am also not familiar with Totem, so I might be a bit off in my response:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Denver Gingerich denver@ossguy.com wrote:
I am using Firefox 3.0.6 on Ubuntu 8.10. I do not have any Flash plugins installed, nor do I have the VLC plugin installed. However, I do have the Totem plugins installed for a wide variety of media formats. According to my Applications list in Preferences, "Totem Web Browser Plugin" is associated with "Ogg Audio", "Ogg Video", and "Ogg multimedia file". I am able to play Theora/Vorbis files embedded via <object> without any problems through Totem.
Is my setup supported? If not, are there plans to support it?
The players that mv_embed looks for are hard-coded in the mv_embed.js list, so we'd have to add Totem to it. We'd also need to add a layer that adapts the plugin functionality to what mv_embed needs, assuming Totem provides the necessary functionality. Does Totem provide any javascript hooks? I can't seem to find much reference on the plugin.
It would be nice to see mv_embed support arbitrary video plugins that claim to play Ogg media.
I think this would be difficult unless the plugins all provide their functionality in the same way.
Best,
Stjepan
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Thanks for your feedback Denver.
Yea the default ubuntu install would be a good thing to support :) ... I will see about patching mv_embed for generic object / support tomorrow.. some functionality might not be supported as totem just tries to "act" like other plugins not really exposing its own javascript API...
- --michael
Stjepan Rajko wrote:
Hi Denver,
I have been out of touch with mv_embed for a while, and I am also not familiar with Totem, so I might be a bit off in my response:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Denver Gingerich denver@ossguy.com
wrote:
I am using Firefox 3.0.6 on Ubuntu 8.10. I do not have any Flash plugins installed, nor do I have the VLC plugin installed. However, I do have the Totem plugins installed for a wide variety of media formats. According to my Applications list in Preferences, "Totem Web Browser Plugin" is associated with "Ogg Audio", "Ogg Video", and "Ogg multimedia file". I am able to play Theora/Vorbis files embedded via <object> without any problems through Totem.
Is my setup supported? If not, are there plans to support it?
The players that mv_embed looks for are hard-coded in the mv_embed.js list, so we'd have to add Totem to it. We'd also need to add a layer that adapts the plugin functionality to what mv_embed needs, assuming Totem provides the necessary functionality. Does Totem provide any javascript hooks? I can't seem to find much reference on the plugin.
It would be nice to see mv_embed support arbitrary video plugins that claim to play Ogg media.
I think this would be difficult unless the plugins all provide their functionality in the same way.
Best,
Stjepan
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Michael Dale dale@ucsc.edu wrote:
Thanks for your feedback Denver.
Yea the default ubuntu install would be a good thing to support :)
I'm glad someone recognized that I was describing a default Ubuntu install. I should have mentioned that.
... I will see about patching mv_embed for generic object / support tomorrow.. some functionality might not be supported as totem just tries to "act" like other plugins not really exposing its own javascript API...
Generic <object> support was what I was looking for. There should be some way for plugins that don't support JavaScript hooks or whose API is unknown to still play video with mv_embed.
Is there a particular reason, aside from having custom player controls, that mv_embed needs to use a plugin's JavaScript hooks? If not, generic <object> support should be a given.
Denver http://ossguy.com/
Stjepan Rajko wrote:
Hi Denver,
I have been out of touch with mv_embed for a while, and I am also not familiar with Totem, so I might be a bit off in my response:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Denver Gingerich denver@ossguy.com
wrote:
I am using Firefox 3.0.6 on Ubuntu 8.10. I do not have any Flash plugins installed, nor do I have the VLC plugin installed. However, I do have the Totem plugins installed for a wide variety of media formats. According to my Applications list in Preferences, "Totem Web Browser Plugin" is associated with "Ogg Audio", "Ogg Video", and "Ogg multimedia file". I am able to play Theora/Vorbis files embedded via <object> without any problems through Totem.
Is my setup supported? If not, are there plans to support it?
The players that mv_embed looks for are hard-coded in the mv_embed.js list, so we'd have to add Totem to it. We'd also need to add a layer that adapts the plugin functionality to what mv_embed needs, assuming Totem provides the necessary functionality. Does Totem provide any javascript hooks? I can't seem to find much reference on the plugin.
It would be nice to see mv_embed support arbitrary video plugins that claim to play Ogg media.
I think this would be difficult unless the plugins all provide their functionality in the same way.
Best,
Stjepan
committed the fix in revision 48071 .. I have pushed the update out to mvbox2.cse.ucsc.edu .. let me know if that works for you.
Denver Gingerich wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Michael Dale dale@ucsc.edu wrote:
Thanks for your feedback Denver.
Yea the default ubuntu install would be a good thing to support :)
I'm glad someone recognized that I was describing a default Ubuntu install. I should have mentioned that.
... I will see about patching mv_embed for generic object / support tomorrow.. some functionality might not be supported as totem just tries to "act" like other plugins not really exposing its own javascript API...
Generic <object> support was what I was looking for. There should be some way for plugins that don't support JavaScript hooks or whose API is unknown to still play video with mv_embed.
Is there a particular reason, aside from having custom player controls, that mv_embed needs to use a plugin's JavaScript hooks? If not, generic <object> support should be a given.
Denver http://ossguy.com/
Stjepan Rajko wrote:
Hi Denver,
I have been out of touch with mv_embed for a while, and I am also not familiar with Totem, so I might be a bit off in my response:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Denver Gingerich denver@ossguy.com
wrote:
I am using Firefox 3.0.6 on Ubuntu 8.10. I do not have any Flash plugins installed, nor do I have the VLC plugin installed. However, I do have the Totem plugins installed for a wide variety of media formats. According to my Applications list in Preferences, "Totem Web Browser Plugin" is associated with "Ogg Audio", "Ogg Video", and "Ogg multimedia file". I am able to play Theora/Vorbis files embedded via <object> without any problems through Totem.
Is my setup supported? If not, are there plans to support it?
The players that mv_embed looks for are hard-coded in the mv_embed.js list, so we'd have to add Totem to it. We'd also need to add a layer that adapts the plugin functionality to what mv_embed needs, assuming Totem provides the necessary functionality. Does Totem provide any javascript hooks? I can't seem to find much reference on the plugin.
It would be nice to see mv_embed support arbitrary video plugins that claim to play Ogg media.
I think this would be difficult unless the plugins all provide their functionality in the same way.
Best,
Stjepan
It works! And Totem reports that the content being streamed is indeed using Theora and Vorbis. Thanks very much, Michael.
Denver http://ossguy.com/
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Michael Dale dale@ucsc.edu wrote:
committed the fix in revision 48071 .. I have pushed the update out to mvbox2.cse.ucsc.edu .. let me know if that works for you.
Denver Gingerich wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Michael Dale dale@ucsc.edu wrote:
Thanks for your feedback Denver.
Yea the default ubuntu install would be a good thing to support :)
I'm glad someone recognized that I was describing a default Ubuntu install. I should have mentioned that.
... I will see about patching mv_embed for generic object / support tomorrow.. some functionality might not be supported as totem just tries to "act" like other plugins not really exposing its own javascript API...
Generic <object> support was what I was looking for. There should be some way for plugins that don't support JavaScript hooks or whose API is unknown to still play video with mv_embed.
Is there a particular reason, aside from having custom player controls, that mv_embed needs to use a plugin's JavaScript hooks? If not, generic <object> support should be a given.
Denver http://ossguy.com/
Stjepan Rajko wrote:
Hi Denver,
I have been out of touch with mv_embed for a while, and I am also not familiar with Totem, so I might be a bit off in my response:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Denver Gingerich denver@ossguy.com
wrote:
I am using Firefox 3.0.6 on Ubuntu 8.10. I do not have any Flash plugins installed, nor do I have the VLC plugin installed. However, I do have the Totem plugins installed for a wide variety of media formats. According to my Applications list in Preferences, "Totem Web Browser Plugin" is associated with "Ogg Audio", "Ogg Video", and "Ogg multimedia file". I am able to play Theora/Vorbis files embedded via <object> without any problems through Totem.
Is my setup supported? If not, are there plans to support it?
The players that mv_embed looks for are hard-coded in the mv_embed.js list, so we'd have to add Totem to it. We'd also need to add a layer that adapts the plugin functionality to what mv_embed needs, assuming Totem provides the necessary functionality. Does Totem provide any javascript hooks? I can't seem to find much reference on the plugin.
It would be nice to see mv_embed support arbitrary video plugins that claim to play Ogg media.
I think this would be difficult unless the plugins all provide their functionality in the same way.
Best,
Stjepan