MetaVid-l July 2008

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Re: [MetaVid-l] re-skinning
by Michael Dale 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

yea lets put player discussion on-list : ) my thoughts on the questions: > Should the skin show up right from the beginning (i.e., with the > thumbnail picture)? I think we should include it (if the "controls" attribute is set to true) ... Youtube does it .. in the future we could support jump to time seeking... where the user drags the seek bar (before the video has started playing).. update the video thumbnail with jpegs and the new timecode as they drag and then just seek to that time onMouseUp (we already have (updateThumbnail and updateVideoTimeReq ) ;) > Should we migrate the icons/functionality accessible in the corners > of the thumbnail (download, choose player, ...) to the icons on the > control bar (options icon etc.) Yes. > How do we deal with the case where the requested width is > insufficient for the entire control bar? impose a minimum width? > Scale things down? Bellow 320x240 I think we should hide the seek bar. You will probably have to do some hackery to get it to do dynamic layout widths properly. Let me know if you run into any css issues that seem insurmountable... I got a lot of flv info today and it seems there is no perfect seeking solution without re-encoding flash content because flash can only seek or play media from a given keyframe. (it does not seem capable of decoding from previous keyframe and then skipping/dumping unrequested content to start playing at the time requested :( I will look at the existing media on archive.org see how much keyframe granularity they have... --michael Stjepan Rajko wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I got started with the reskinning and have some questions. You can > see my modest beginnings at: > > http://urbanstew.org/MediaWiki/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/sample… > > For now, the new skin will show up only if you play something using > flowplayer - it will materialize (poorly) the control strip, and the > pause/play button will work (but not change its image). I left the > old controls for now as well. > > My questions are: > > * Should the skin show up right from the beginning (i.e., with the > thumbnail picture)? > * Should we migrate the icons/functionality accessible in the corners > of the thumbnail (download, choose player, ...) to the icons on the > control bar (options icon etc.) > * How do we deal with the case where the requested width is > insufficient for the entire control bar? impose a minimum width? > Scale things down? > > Let me know if you'd rather I send these questions out to the list. > > Thanks! > > Stjepan >

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Annodex Error
by Miano Njoka 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hi I keep getting errors like this in my apache logs for some ogg files which don't play at all in Metavid, yet other ogg files work fine. What could be the problem? [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Accept CMML 1.000000, Accept ANX 1.000000\n [error] [client 127.0.0.1] ma_anxenc t=0:00:00 id=(null) (0.000000/81.000000) Thanks Miano.

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Re: [MetaVid-l] bug report for metavidwiki CMML
by Michael Dale 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

should be fixed and committed shortly :) ... the branch I have been working off of lately is http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidW… this is because several site-breaking big changes are happening with development/deployment of the new skin ("unified search", "semantic helpers" for annotations, skin enhancements, clip views & search digest and the in-development flash fall back support that Stjepan Rajko is working on :) This should hopefully be merged back to the main branch in early august before we launch the site. looking forward to john's import script :) another thing discovered in conversations with Marcus (lead developer of semantic mediaWiki) is that [[property:=value]] has been deprecated in favor of [[property::value]] ... so all import scripts should be updated accordingly ie [[Spoken By::Person]] rather than [[Spoken By:=person]] also for metavid-l check out http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/138776 for an announcement about my future involvement with metavid/wikipedia/kaltura ;) peace, michael Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Having used metavidwiki today to import some random html annotations > from HANSARD into it, I noticed that your CMML representations of the > annotations aren't quite "conformant", e.g. > http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki/index.php?title=Special:MvExportStream&stream_… > . > > This is quite a funny one: You have used as time specification "ntp" > everywhere, where instead it should read "npt" (normal playback time). > :-) > > Also, there is no "description" element in the "head", but rather you > should use a meta tag for that in the form: > <meta name="description" content="Legislative Assembly, Thursday 5 > June 2008"/> > > John is currently writing a ruby script to import cmml into > metavidwiki. I'm sure he'll be happy to share once done. > > Cheers, > Silvia. >

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Semantic MediaWiki and MetavidWiki now in Debian
by John Ferlito 05 Jul '08

05 Jul '08

Hi, As part of some work I'm doing with the Annodex association and some clients I have packaged up Semantic MediaWiki and MetavidWiki for Debian. These packages are now in the unstable archive. They should make their way into testing and therefore Ubuntu in the next week or so. If you have the time please test them out and let me know if you find any problems. Cheers, -- John http://www.inodes.org/

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