Hi,
I am an intern working on reaching out to third-party MediaWiki users. I was pointed to this link with notes on discussion at NOLA Hackaton 2011. I was wondering if these issues/ideas are still valid and if there was any follow up on them?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/NOLA_Hackathon/Saturday#Third-party_committers...
Thank you.
Mariya
Hi,
I am an intern working on reaching out to third-party MediaWiki users. I was
pointed to this link with notes on discussion at NOLA Hackaton 2011. I was
wondering if these issues/ideas are still valid and if there was any follow up
on them?
I am unfamiliar with the document and the hackathon in question, but giving it a cursory glance, I can tell you that documentation is still a problem for sure. Especially in areas like Resource Loader (though I suspect Content Handler will have this problem as well). I'm more of an amateur developer here where I work, so much of what else was covered there hasn't affected me yet.
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
Alizee Pathology
[[User:Zellfaze]]
On 01/18/2013 10:59 AM, Maria Miteva wrote:
I am an intern working on reaching out to third-party MediaWiki users. I was pointed to this link with notes on discussion at NOLA Hackaton 2011. I was wondering if these issues/ideas are still valid and if there was any follow up on them?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/NOLA_Hackathon/Saturday#Third-party_committers...
I was involved in that discussion and I'll look over the notes. I just had a good phone discussion today with the founder of ZeldaWiki about MediaWiki and extensions and the lack of support that may be relevant.
Mark.
Thank you for the reply, Derric. Documentation is probably an area I should focus to get more feedback about and try to find out what parts of it people have significant problems with.
Mark, could you share more about the relevant discussion you mentioned and , if you had a chance to look at them, your thoughts on the notes from the hackaton?
Mariya
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Mark A. Hershberger mah@everybody.orgwrote:
On 01/18/2013 10:59 AM, Maria Miteva wrote:
I am an intern working on reaching out to third-party MediaWiki users. I was pointed to this link with notes on discussion at NOLA Hackaton 2011. I was wondering if these issues/ideas are still valid and if there was any follow up on them?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/NOLA_Hackathon/Saturday#Third-party_committers...
I was involved in that discussion and I'll look over the notes. I just had a good phone discussion today with the founder of ZeldaWiki about MediaWiki and extensions and the lack of support that may be relevant.
Mark.
Language will always shift from day to day. It is the wind blowing through our mouths. -- http://hexm.de/np
On 01/22/2013 06:52 AM, Mariya Nedelcheva Miteva wrote:
Mark, could you share more about the relevant discussion you mentioned and , if you had a chance to look at them, your thoughts on the notes from the hackaton?
Mostly, we discussed ways that we could begin working with non-WMF MediaWiki users -- especially the larger ones like Wikia.
Some of that has happened -- Wikia is involved in the development of the VisualEditor, for example. Unfortunately, that feels like an isolated incident.
The "new" installer is a great example of this. The Foundation has no vested interest in the installer -- they have their own methods for setting up and maintaining wikis. In fact, while I was at the WMF, I used the Installer as an example of how the primary MediaWiki developers aren't focused *only* on the Foundation's needs.
Chad did some really great work on it and he had some good ideas for a configuration front end. But now that he is working on Git/Gerrit for the Foundation, he doesn't have time to maintain the installer or implement the configuration front end. But he is still the only person (according to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers) who can +2 changes to the installer despite the fact that his focus is elsewhere.
That said, I think the summary at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/NOLA_Hackathon/Saturday#Third-party_committer... still applies. But more work is needed to diversify the working interests of MediaWiki committers so that there are more non-WMF developers involved.
Mark.
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