I feel that bot operators should actively pay attention to the technical aspects of the community and the mailing lists. So, the bot operator who never updates their software, doesn't pay attention to the announcements, and ignores api warnings should be blocked after the deadline. Bot operators do not operate in a vacuum, and should never run bots just for the sake of running them. Community should always be able to find and communicate with the bot operators. Obviously we should not make sudden changes (except in the security/breaking matters), and try to make the process as easy as possible. The rawcontinue param is exactly that, simply adding it will keep the logic as before.

Lastly, I again would like to promote the idea discussed at the hackathon -- a client side minimalistic library that bigger frameworks like pywikibot rely on, and that is designed in part by the core developers. See the proposal at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Minimalistic_MW_API_Clie... On Jun 3, 2015 2:29 PM, "John Mark Vandenberg" jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:

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... I've compiled a list of bots that have hit the deprecation warning more than 10000 times over the course of the week May 23–29. If you are responsible for any of these bots, please fix them. If you know who is, please make sure they've seen this notification. Thanks.

Thank you Brad for doing impact analysis and providing a list of the 71 bots with more than 10,000 problems per week. We can try to solve those by working with the bot operators.

If possible, could you compile a list of bots affected at a lower threshold - maybe 1,000. That will give us a better idea of the scale of bots operators that will be affected when this lands - currently in one months time.

Will the deploy date be moved back if the impact doesnt diminish by bots being fixed?

-- John Vandenberg

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