Preemptive apology for the cross-post
I haven't seen this noted anywhere in our community and thought it was worthy of discussion.
Google has removed an easily accessible button that would take you directly to the image file in search results. I wonder what impact this may have, if any, on the discovery and use of images hosted on Wikimedia projects (most notably Commons) that appear in these Google search results.
https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/964226180776845312
See also: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/17017864/google-removes-view-image-button...
Hat tip to Quim Gil for sharing.
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation
I'd recently noticed this change. It does make it harder for people to steal images, as the Verge article put right in the headline. Given that there are so few websites that encourage the use of pictures—Commons, Pixabay, etc.—on net it's probably a good thing. Even on Commons people should check out the licensing info and make sure a picture has the license they need/expect. So many people assume everything on the internet is public domain https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/public_domain(1) just because it is in the public domain(3).
On the other hand, some sites are so bad about making it hard to find images on a page—huge Pinterest collections are like that—that "view image" was the only practical way to see a higher resolution version of an image.
Still, I think having to go to Commons and see the context of the image is good for helping people understand copyright and to learn about more permissive licenses.
Trey Jones Sr. Software Engineer, Search Platform Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Chris Koerner ckoerner@wikimedia.org wrote:
Preemptive apology for the cross-post
I haven't seen this noted anywhere in our community and thought it was worthy of discussion.
Google has removed an easily accessible button that would take you directly to the image file in search results. I wonder what impact this may have, if any, on the discovery and use of images hosted on Wikimedia projects (most notably Commons) that appear in these Google search results.
https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/964226180776845312
See also: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/17017864/google-removes- view-image-button-from-search-results
Hat tip to Quim Gil for sharing.
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation
Discovery mailing list Discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
There is another change too - it now says 'Images may be subject to copyright' under each image. Fun times...
Personally, I agree with Trey — not getting to get to the actual image for a better resolution is frustrating.
Cheers,
Deb
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deb tankersley
Program Manager, Engineering
Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Trey Jones tjones@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'd recently noticed this change. It does make it harder for people to steal images, as the Verge article put right in the headline. Given that there are so few websites that encourage the use of pictures—Commons, Pixabay, etc.—on net it's probably a good thing. Even on Commons people should check out the licensing info and make sure a picture has the license they need/expect. So many people assume everything on the internet is public domain https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/public_domain(1) just because it is in the public domain(3).
On the other hand, some sites are so bad about making it hard to find images on a page—huge Pinterest collections are like that—that "view image" was the only practical way to see a higher resolution version of an image.
Still, I think having to go to Commons and see the context of the image is good for helping people understand copyright and to learn about more permissive licenses.
Trey Jones Sr. Software Engineer, Search Platform Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Chris Koerner ckoerner@wikimedia.org wrote:
Preemptive apology for the cross-post
I haven't seen this noted anywhere in our community and thought it was worthy of discussion.
Google has removed an easily accessible button that would take you directly to the image file in search results. I wonder what impact this may have, if any, on the discovery and use of images hosted on Wikimedia projects (most notably Commons) that appear in these Google search results.
https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/964226180776845312
See also: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/17017864/google-removes-v iew-image-button-from-search-results
Hat tip to Quim Gil for sharing.
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation
Discovery mailing list Discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
Discovery mailing list Discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
On the other hand, it could increase peoples' awareness of Commons. I imagine lots of folks use Commons images all the time and never know they are grabbing content from an Wikimedia wiki.
We might get some curious folks who start to poke around when they see they're on a wiki-based image repository? Not that Commons, right now, supports exploration or browsing particularly well. Still, it'll be interesting to see if we see a change in our traffic statistics.
- J
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Deborah Tankersley < dtankersley@wikimedia.org> wrote:
There is another change too - it now says 'Images may be subject to copyright' under each image. Fun times...
Personally, I agree with Trey — not getting to get to the actual image for a better resolution is frustrating.
Cheers,
Deb
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deb tankersley
Program Manager, Engineering
Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Trey Jones tjones@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'd recently noticed this change. It does make it harder for people to steal images, as the Verge article put right in the headline. Given that there are so few websites that encourage the use of pictures—Commons, Pixabay, etc.—on net it's probably a good thing. Even on Commons people should check out the licensing info and make sure a picture has the license they need/expect. So many people assume everything on the internet is public domain https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/public_domain(1) just because it is in the public domain(3).
On the other hand, some sites are so bad about making it hard to find images on a page—huge Pinterest collections are like that—that "view image" was the only practical way to see a higher resolution version of an image.
Still, I think having to go to Commons and see the context of the image is good for helping people understand copyright and to learn about more permissive licenses.
Trey Jones Sr. Software Engineer, Search Platform Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Chris Koerner ckoerner@wikimedia.org wrote:
Preemptive apology for the cross-post
I haven't seen this noted anywhere in our community and thought it was worthy of discussion.
Google has removed an easily accessible button that would take you directly to the image file in search results. I wonder what impact this may have, if any, on the discovery and use of images hosted on Wikimedia projects (most notably Commons) that appear in these Google search results.
https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/964226180776845312
See also: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/17017864/google-removes-v iew-image-button-from-search-results
Hat tip to Quim Gil for sharing.
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation
Discovery mailing list Discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
Discovery mailing list Discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
Discovery mailing list Discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
To quote https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Marking_Works_Technical
Included Objects Objects included in web pages, such as images, should be annotated as above within their "host" web pages. Ideally all included objects should also embed object format native notice and metadata as described below, but this is only crucial for objects where the publisher intends for or is concerned about distribution outside the context of the "host" web page. Metadata about include objects that have their own URIs should be qualified with about, as rel="license" without an about attribute makes a statement about the current document (which is the "host" web page). Example:
Photo licensed under <a about="http://example.com/some-image.png" rel="license" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">cc by 4.0</a>.
Perhaps this could be added to Commons as a mediawiki extension for Google to start picking it up and showing the licensing information in its search results. Currently Commons shows link tags with rel="license" attribute but they specify the whole page license, like they should.
-- Sveta