Short questions about how we organize our work...
I'm using mainly https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/discovery-search-sprint/ and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1227/ to track what I'm doing. I have a few things I do not know where to put:
T109101 is actually done, but waiting for the elasticsearch upgrade to push it at the same time to prod (to do only one restart). This is still WiP, so I dont want to close it, but it is not really in need of review either.
Any idea?
MrG
Hi!
T109101 is actually done, but waiting for the elasticsearch upgrade to push it at the same time to prod (to do only one restart). This is still WiP, so I dont want to close it, but it is not really in need of review either.
I would put it to Done column and make a note inside the task that it is waiting for being deployed, so nobody resolves it. Then when it's deployed it can be actually resolved.
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
T109101 is actually done, but waiting for the elasticsearch upgrade to push it at the same time to prod (to do only one restart). This is still WiP, so I dont want to close it, but it is not really in need of review either.
I would put it to Done column and make a note inside the task that it is waiting for being deployed, so nobody resolves it. Then when it's deployed it can be actually resolved.
If this is only an isolated use case, and most of the time this does not happen, I would agree with you. If it is something that happens regularly (and I can see myself having this regularly, not sure if it will really be the case) I think this is work in progress that will be hidden in a "done" column and I don't like it. One of the important role of a Kanban, is to surface where we have WiP stuck. I am most probably biased by my previous experiences, but waiting for deployment is a place where I could see things accumulate...
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Le 18/02/2016 20:28, Guillaume Lederrey a écrit :
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
T109101 is actually done, but waiting for the elasticsearch upgrade to push it at the same time to prod (to do only one restart). This is still WiP, so I dont want to close it, but it is not really in need of review either.
I would put it to Done column and make a note inside the task that it is waiting for being deployed, so nobody resolves it. Then when it's deployed it can be actually resolved.
If this is only an isolated use case, and most of the time this does not happen, I would agree with you. If it is something that happens regularly (and I can see myself having this regularly, not sure if it will really be the case) I think this is work in progress that will be hidden in a "done" column and I don't like it. One of the important role of a Kanban, is to surface where we have WiP stuck. I am most probably biased by my previous experiences, but waiting for deployment is a place where I could see things accumulate...
It's what is done by the analytics team: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1030/ with a "Ready to Deploy" column. I don't have any objection to add a new column.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 9:21 AM, David Causse dcausse@wikimedia.org wrote:
Le 18/02/2016 20:28, Guillaume Lederrey a écrit :
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
T109101 is actually done, but waiting for the elasticsearch upgrade to push it at the same time to prod (to do only one restart). This is still WiP, so I dont want to close it, but it is not really in need of review either.
I would put it to Done column and make a note inside the task that it is waiting for being deployed, so nobody resolves it. Then when it's deployed it can be actually resolved.
If this is only an isolated use case, and most of the time this does not happen, I would agree with you. If it is something that happens regularly (and I can see myself having this regularly, not sure if it will really be the case) I think this is work in progress that will be hidden in a "done" column and I don't like it. One of the important role of a Kanban, is to surface where we have WiP stuck. I am most probably biased by my previous experiences, but waiting for deployment is a place where I could see things accumulate...
It's what is done by the analytics team: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1030/ with a "Ready to Deploy" column. I don't have any objection to add a new column.
Let's wait and if I have more than one task to put there. But if it is the case, I think it could be a good solution.
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