Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we could benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they are excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their performance tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it works. Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with performance in mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: *Project -> portals *to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
Boom!
Cant wait to see these graphs go down.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we could benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they are excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their performance tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it works. Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with performance in mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: *Project -> portals *to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
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That looks great (well, the numbers look really really bad for a static page, but having this info now is great)! Can't wait to see what improvements can be made.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Moiz Syed msyed@wikimedia.org wrote:
Boom!
Cant wait to see these graphs go down.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we could benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they are excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their performance tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it works. Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with performance in mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: *Project -> portals *to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
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Where does the data list? It seems like something we'd want to integrate into the central Portal dashboards once those exist.
On 2 November 2015 at 17:59, Erik Bernhardson ebernhardson@wikimedia.org wrote:
That looks great (well, the numbers look really really bad for a static page, but having this info now is great)! Can't wait to see what improvements can be made.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Moiz Syed msyed@wikimedia.org wrote:
Boom!
Cant wait to see these graphs go down.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we could benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they are excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their performance tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it works. Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with performance in mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: Project -> portals to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
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Most likely this data is all in graphite. This is probably more complex than desired (maybe there is better way?) but:
1) change the url from grafana.wikimedia.org to grafana-admin.wikimedia.org 2) click the title of any graph, this will pull up a bar that says 'View | Edit | Duplicate | Share' 3) Click on edit and it will show just the one graph along with the metrics used at the bottom 4) for example the 'SpeedIndex' graph is using the following graphite query, note that the $wiki variables and such are replaced by grafana with choices from the dropdown: aliasByNode(webpagetest.$wiki.anonymous.$page.$location.$browser.$view.SpeedIndex.median, 1, 3, 5)
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Where does the data list? It seems like something we'd want to integrate into the central Portal dashboards once those exist.
On 2 November 2015 at 17:59, Erik Bernhardson ebernhardson@wikimedia.org wrote:
That looks great (well, the numbers look really really bad for a static page, but having this info now is great)! Can't wait to see what improvements can be made.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Moiz Syed msyed@wikimedia.org wrote:
Boom!
Cant wait to see these graphs go down.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we
could
benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they
are
excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their
performance
tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it
works.
Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with
performance in
mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: Project -> portals to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
-- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation
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I forgot to note that grafana has other inputs it can source metrics from, if it's using something other than graphite it will say so in the bottom right-hand corner of the 'edit' page
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Erik Bernhardson <ebernhardson@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Most likely this data is all in graphite. This is probably more complex than desired (maybe there is better way?) but:
- change the url from grafana.wikimedia.org to
grafana-admin.wikimedia.org 2) click the title of any graph, this will pull up a bar that says 'View | Edit | Duplicate | Share' 3) Click on edit and it will show just the one graph along with the metrics used at the bottom 4) for example the 'SpeedIndex' graph is using the following graphite query, note that the $wiki variables and such are replaced by grafana with choices from the dropdown: aliasByNode(webpagetest.$wiki.anonymous.$page.$location.$browser.$view.SpeedIndex.median, 1, 3, 5)
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Where does the data list? It seems like something we'd want to integrate into the central Portal dashboards once those exist.
On 2 November 2015 at 17:59, Erik Bernhardson ebernhardson@wikimedia.org wrote:
That looks great (well, the numbers look really really bad for a static page, but having this info now is great)! Can't wait to see what improvements can be made.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Moiz Syed msyed@wikimedia.org wrote:
Boom!
Cant wait to see these graphs go down.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault <jgirault@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we
could
benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and
they are
excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their
performance
tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs
a
private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS,
they
collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it
works.
Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with
performance in
mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: Project -> portals to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
-- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi,
Peter did a new iteration on our speed performance dashboard. We now have a dedicated url and a simpler layout: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest-portals
On the left, you will see the performance in production. On the right, the performance in beta.
I want to highlight that yesterday we pushed to production the first deployment of wiki portals from gerrit (successfully), as well as the first couple improvements made to the portal page, and they are noticeable on the performance dashboard: - inlining the CSS and JS in the html file (see "Number of requests" decreased) - image optimization (see how "Page and Assets size" decreased) - we can see the speed graph baseline is below than before :)
Let's keep up the good work!!
JG
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we could benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they are excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their performance tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it works. Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with performance in mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: *Project -> portals *to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
This is certainly better, great work! How can we move further? I'm amazed that it still has an average of almost 1.5s, how could we figure out what is taking so long? Is it (random example) due to the average user being on a slow mobile network with high latency? Would be interesting to investigate.
One idea from prod would be to use data uri's in css that fallback to normal urls? IIRC most browsers support data uris up to 32kB which should fit all the images we use and potentially save eighteen requests.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
Peter did a new iteration on our speed performance dashboard. We now have a dedicated url and a simpler layout: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest-portals
On the left, you will see the performance in production. On the right, the performance in beta.
I want to highlight that yesterday we pushed to production the first deployment of wiki portals from gerrit (successfully), as well as the first couple improvements made to the portal page, and they are noticeable on the performance dashboard:
- inlining the CSS and JS in the html file (see "Number of requests"
decreased)
- image optimization (see how "Page and Assets size" decreased)
- we can see the speed graph baseline is below than before :)
Let's keep up the good work!!
JG
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Julien Girault jgirault@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
I am excited to announce you that we now have a performance dashboard (speed) for the wikipedia.org portal page.
Thanks to Ori and Peter from the performance team to listen to us and make this dashboard happen in a few days only.
Some context: Moiz and I had a quick discussion late last week with Ori. I wanted to meet the Performance team and see what tools they are using and if we could benefit from that to measure the performance improvements made on www.wikipedia.org portal page. It turns out they have tools, and they are excited in making them available to us!
They are heavily using http://www.webpagetest.org/ as their performance tool to test static pages. And even better, the Performance Team runs a private instance of WebPageTest at http://wpt.wmftest.org on AWS, they collect all the metrics and display them into a great dashboard.
I met Peter this morning and he showed me the dashboard and how it works. Peter was also very excited to collaborate to collect metrics for the wikipedia portal and see a desire to improve this page with performance in mind (and using their new tool for that).
As of now, the dashboard is available here: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest
You must select: *Project -> portals *to see www.wikipedia.org metrics.
Looking forward to push the first improvements!
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery