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Re: Commons licensing for chapter-owned copyrights (Huib!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:47:46 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Commons licensing for chapter-owned copyrights To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <41a006820906050647n15880737x31446f2f973ef720@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hoi, I really think that you should learn a bit more about trademarks. Your assume that it is acceptable for graphics that identify an organisation or a project to be used by everyone. This is not the case. Thanks, GerardM 2009/6/5 Abigor <abigor@forgotten-beauty.com>Hello, This is maybe a kind of other point of view. I believe that the mission for the chaptors is to support free media.. But with keeping logo's protected under all right reserved that aren't giving a good example. I can understand that the official Wikimedia logos aren't free. But a logo for pikiwiki for example can easy be released under cc-by or cc-by-sa and that would also give a example for other company's how they should license there logo's and photo's. cc license can be used on Commons without problems.. But how can a organisation support free media and upload there own material under a non free license.. Huib Http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Abigor msn: Abigor@forgotten-beauty.com _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/attachments/20090605/cb515762/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:24:02 +0100 From: David Gerard <dgerard@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Commons licensing for chapter-owned copyrights To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <fbad4e140906050724s7e0483d2q11ac842d4a875a2e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2009/6/5 Abigor <abigor@forgotten-beauty.com>:I believe that the mission for the chaptors is to support free media.. But with keeping logo's protected under all right reserved that aren't giving a good example. I can understand that the official Wikimedia logos aren't free. But a logo for pikiwiki for example can easy be released under cc-by or cc-by-sa and that would also give a example for other company's how they should license there logo's and photo's.I'd like you to answer this question: How could Commons be a more effective service project for other Wikimedia projects, including the chapters and Foundation? - d. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:29:32 +0200 (CEST) From: "Abigor" <abigor@forgotten-beauty.com> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Commons licensing for chapter-owned copyrights To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <52930.127.0.0.1.1244212172.squirrel@127.0.0.1> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 No actually, I meant what I said. What I said was "keeping all rights reserved" on our logo's or other material seems a bit odd with our mission. Trademarks is another restriction on uses, and this we should not abandon. But I was speaking about copyright Huib Http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Abigor msn: Abigor@forgotten-beauty.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:46:07 +0200 From: Ting Chen <wing.philopp@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Commons licensing for chapter-owned copyrights To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <4A2967EF.10102@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It is the law that forces us to do this. For example according to the american trademark law if we don't effectively take strength to defend our trademark, we will lose the right on them. Which would mean that one day everyone, every company can use our name and our logo to do EVERYTHING. This is one issue. The other issue is that other companies could occupy the name and the logo and register it as their trademark, so that one day we will lose the right to use them. This thread is real. There were companies who tried to register the name Wikipedia in China. And the logo of the german newspaper Taz was once occupied by another company in Germany. Abigor wrote:No actually, I meant what I said. What I said was "keeping all rights reserved" on our logo's or other material seems a bit odd with our mission. Trademarks is another restriction on uses, and this we should not abandon. But I was speaking about copyright Huib Http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Abigor msn: Abigor@forgotten-beauty.com _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l