Thank you so much Nuria for your clarifications !
All the best,
Viviana



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>but I'd like to follow the behaviour flow when an user access some
Wikipedia page following a link by my website.
>I don't know if that is possible somehow and if it makes sense for you.
I see, It does make sense but that is not data we have.

Thanks,

Nuria

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 5:19 AM viviana paga <viviana.paga@hotmail.it> wrote:

> Hi Nuria,
> thanks for your reply and tips!
> As you propose, I use matomo to get data from my client, but I'd like to
> follow the behaviour flow when an user access some Wikipedia page following
> a link by my website.
> I don't know if that is possible somehow and if it makes sense for you.
> Many thanks,
> Viviana
>
>
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> Hi Dan,
> thanks for your reply !
> I agree with you and in fact I do that in my front-end, but I think that
> it would be interesting have same general stats from Wikimedia too; in
> particular to understand which impact could my project have on general
> Wikimedia stats and which will be the behaviour of the users arriving to
> Wikimedia from my site (if the attended one or not).
> I thought having some stats by api-user-agent from backend could help me
> to understand these points and improve in the future my project in the best
> way. What do you think ? Is there a procedure that can I follow to have
> these stats?
> Many thanks,
> Viviana
>
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> From: viviana paga <viviana.paga@hotmail.it>
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> Hi all,
>
> I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and,
> more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.
> In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and
> I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the
> commons.wikipedia.org domain.
>
> More specifically,  I'd like to have:
> - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent
> - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent
> - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif domain
> or url
>
> Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?
> Is there a procedure that I can follow?
>
> The project is still in development, but next April we will release a beta
> version for a limited range of users-testers.
> The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum freedom,
> independence and privacy for its users.
> That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:
> that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same time,
> the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the
> utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.
>
> If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural
> heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to
> propose to partecipate as tester in April.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Kind regards,
> Viviana Paga
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/
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> Hi Viviana,
>
> Great project!  The first thought I had looking at your question is that
> you can collect all the data you're asking about.  If your service is
> making API calls and people are clicking on Wikipedia links from your
> interface, you can just collect that information and process it yourself.
> Is there a reason you're not doing so?  It just sounds like the easiest way
> to get what you need.
>
> Dan
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:15 AM viviana paga <viviana.paga@hotmail.it>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and,
> > more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.
> > In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and
> > I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the
> > commons.wikipedia.org domain.
> >
> > More specifically,  I'd like to have:
> > - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent
> > - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent
> > - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif
> domain
> > or url
> >
> > Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?
> > Is there a procedure that I can follow?
> >
> > The project is still in development, but next April we will release a
> beta
> > version for a limited range of users-testers.
> > The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum
> freedom,
> > independence and privacy for its users.
> > That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:
> > that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same
> time,
> > the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the
> > utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.
> >
> > If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural
> > heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to
> > propose to partecipate as tester in April.
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Kind regards,
> > Viviana Paga
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/
> >
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> From: Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org>
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> >I thought having some stats by api-user-agent from backend could help me
> to understand these points and improve in the future my project in the best
> way. What do you >think ? Is there a procedure that can I follow to have
> these stats?
> The stats would be the same, viviana, raw counts of call from your client
> to the API, we do not have the ability to provide those upon requests but
> it will be easy for you to gather the data from your client, there are open
> source solutions like https://matomo.org/ that you can use to keep track
> of
> stats on your end.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nuria
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 5:21 AM viviana paga <viviana.paga@hotmail.it>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan,
> > thanks for your reply !
> > I agree with you and in fact I do that in my front-end, but I think that
> > it would be interesting have same general stats from Wikimedia too; in
> > particular to understand which impact could my project have on general
> > Wikimedia stats and which will be the behaviour of the users arriving to
> > Wikimedia from my site (if the attended one or not).
> > I thought having some stats by api-user-agent from backend could help me
> > to understand these points and improve in the future my project in the
> best
> > way. What do you think ? Is there a procedure that can I follow to have
> > these stats?
> > Many thanks,
> > Viviana
> >
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and,
> > more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.
> > In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and
> > I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the
> > commons.wikipedia.org domain.
> >
> > More specifically,  I'd like to have:
> > - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent
> > - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent
> > - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif
> domain
> > or url
> >
> > Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?
> > Is there a procedure that I can follow?
> >
> > The project is still in development, but next April we will release a
> beta
> > version for a limited range of users-testers.
> > The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum
> freedom,
> > independence and privacy for its users.
> > That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:
> > that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same
> time,
> > the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the
> > utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.
> >
> > If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural
> > heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to
> > propose to partecipate as tester in April.
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Kind regards,
> > Viviana Paga
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/
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> >
> > Hi Viviana,
> >
> > Great project!  The first thought I had looking at your question is that
> > you can collect all the data you're asking about.  If your service is
> > making API calls and people are clicking on Wikipedia links from your
> > interface, you can just collect that information and process it yourself.
> > Is there a reason you're not doing so?  It just sounds like the easiest
> way
> > to get what you need.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:15 AM viviana paga <viviana.paga@hotmail.it>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage
> and,
> > > more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.
> > > In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API
> and
> > > I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the
> > > commons.wikipedia.org domain.
> > >
> > > More specifically,  I'd like to have:
> > > - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent
> > > - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent
> > > - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif
> > domain
> > > or url
> > >
> > > Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?
> > > Is there a procedure that I can follow?
> > >
> > > The project is still in development, but next April we will release a
> > beta
> > > version for a limited range of users-testers.
> > > The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum
> > freedom,
> > > independence and privacy for its users.
> > > That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:
> > > that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same
> > time,
> > > the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the
> > > utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.
> > >
> > > If someone among you is interested in these issues
> (open-shared-cultural
> > > heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to
> > > propose to partecipate as tester in April.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Viviana Paga
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/
> > >
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