<div dir="ltr">><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10pt">but I'd like to follow the behaviour flow when an user access some Wikipedia page following a link by my website.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10pt"> </span><div style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">>I don't know if that is possible somehow and if it makes sense for you.</div><div style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I see, It does make sense but that is not data we have. </div><div style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks,</div><div style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Nuria</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 5:19 AM viviana paga <<a href="mailto:viviana.paga@hotmail.it">viviana.paga@hotmail.it</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Nuria,</div>
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thanks for your reply and tips!</div>
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As you propose, I use matomo to get data from my client, but I'd like to follow the behaviour flow when an user access some Wikipedia page following a link by my website.
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I don't know if that is possible somehow and if it makes sense for you.</div>
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Many thanks,</div>
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Hi Dan,<br>
thanks for your reply !<br>
I agree with you and in fact I do that in my front-end, but I think that it would be interesting have same general stats from Wikimedia too; in particular to understand which impact could my project have on general Wikimedia stats and which will be the behaviour
of the users arriving to Wikimedia from my site (if the attended one or not).<br>
I thought having some stats by api-user-agent from backend could help me to understand these points and improve in the future my project in the best way. What do you think ? Is there a procedure that can I follow to have these stats?<br>
Many thanks,<br>
Viviana<br>
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and, more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.<br>
In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the <a href="http://commons.wikipedia.org" target="_blank">commons.wikipedia.org</a> domain.<br>
<br>
More specifically, I'd like to have:<br>
- the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent<br>
- the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent<br>
- the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif domain or url<br>
<br>
Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?<br>
Is there a procedure that I can follow?<br>
<br>
The project is still in development, but next April we will release a beta version for a limited range of users-testers.<br>
The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum freedom, independence and privacy for its users.<br>
That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent: that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same time, the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia
stats.<br>
<br>
If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to propose to partecipate as tester in April.<br>
<br>
Thank you in advance,
<br>
Kind regards,
<br>
Viviana Paga<br>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/</a><br>
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Hi Viviana,<br>
<br>
Great project! The first thought I had looking at your question is that<br>
you can collect all the data you're asking about. If your service is<br>
making API calls and people are clicking on Wikipedia links from your<br>
interface, you can just collect that information and process it yourself.<br>
Is there a reason you're not doing so? It just sounds like the easiest way<br>
to get what you need.<br>
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Dan<br>
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On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:15 AM viviana paga <<a href="mailto:viviana.paga@hotmail.it" target="_blank">viviana.paga@hotmail.it</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and,<br>
> more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.<br>
> In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and<br>
> I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the<br>
> <a href="http://commons.wikipedia.org" target="_blank">commons.wikipedia.org</a> domain.<br>
><br>
> More specifically, I'd like to have:<br>
> - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent<br>
> - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent<br>
> - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif domain<br>
> or url<br>
><br>
> Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?<br>
> Is there a procedure that I can follow?<br>
><br>
> The project is still in development, but next April we will release a beta<br>
> version for a limited range of users-testers.<br>
> The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum freedom,<br>
> independence and privacy for its users.<br>
> That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:<br>
> that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same time,<br>
> the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the<br>
> utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.<br>
><br>
> If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural<br>
> heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to<br>
> propose to partecipate as tester in April.<br>
><br>
> Thank you in advance,<br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Viviana Paga<br>
> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/</a><br>
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>I thought having some stats by api-user-agent from backend could help me<br>
to understand these points and improve in the future my project in the best<br>
way. What do you >think ? Is there a procedure that can I follow to have<br>
these stats?<br>
The stats would be the same, viviana, raw counts of call from your client<br>
to the API, we do not have the ability to provide those upon requests but<br>
it will be easy for you to gather the data from your client, there are open<br>
source solutions like <a href="https://matomo.org/" target="_blank">https://matomo.org/</a> that you can use to keep track of<br>
stats on your end.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 5:21 AM viviana paga <<a href="mailto:viviana.paga@hotmail.it" target="_blank">viviana.paga@hotmail.it</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Dan,<br>
> thanks for your reply !<br>
> I agree with you and in fact I do that in my front-end, but I think that<br>
> it would be interesting have same general stats from Wikimedia too; in<br>
> particular to understand which impact could my project have on general<br>
> Wikimedia stats and which will be the behaviour of the users arriving to<br>
> Wikimedia from my site (if the attended one or not).<br>
> I thought having some stats by api-user-agent from backend could help me<br>
> to understand these points and improve in the future my project in the best<br>
> way. What do you think ? Is there a procedure that can I follow to have<br>
> these stats?<br>
> Many thanks,<br>
> Viviana<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and,<br>
> more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.<br>
> In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and<br>
> I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the<br>
> <a href="http://commons.wikipedia.org" target="_blank">commons.wikipedia.org</a> domain.<br>
><br>
> More specifically, I'd like to have:<br>
> - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent<br>
> - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent<br>
> - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif domain<br>
> or url<br>
><br>
> Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?<br>
> Is there a procedure that I can follow?<br>
><br>
> The project is still in development, but next April we will release a beta<br>
> version for a limited range of users-testers.<br>
> The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum freedom,<br>
> independence and privacy for its users.<br>
> That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:<br>
> that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same time,<br>
> the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the<br>
> utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.<br>
><br>
> If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural<br>
> heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to<br>
> propose to partecipate as tester in April.<br>
><br>
> Thank you in advance,<br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Viviana Paga<br>
> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/</a><br>
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> Hi Viviana,<br>
><br>
> Great project! The first thought I had looking at your question is that<br>
> you can collect all the data you're asking about. If your service is<br>
> making API calls and people are clicking on Wikipedia links from your<br>
> interface, you can just collect that information and process it yourself.<br>
> Is there a reason you're not doing so? It just sounds like the easiest way<br>
> to get what you need.<br>
><br>
> Dan<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:15 AM viviana paga <<a href="mailto:viviana.paga@hotmail.it" target="_blank">viviana.paga@hotmail.it</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > I’m working on a project about the sharing of the cultural heritage and,<br>
> > more in general, about the sharing of the open knowledges.<br>
> > In particular, I'm developing a webservice that use the Mediawiki API and<br>
> > I'd like to have some stats about the traffic of my api calls to the<br>
> > <a href="http://commons.wikipedia.org" target="_blank">commons.wikipedia.org</a> domain.<br>
> ><br>
> > More specifically, I'd like to have:<br>
> > - the number of GET Requests by Api-User-Agent<br>
> > - the number of views/edit by Api-User-Agent<br>
> > - the stats of the Wikipedia traffic from inbound links by a specif<br>
> domain<br>
> > or url<br>
> ><br>
> > Is this possible somehow to access to these limited non-public data?<br>
> > Is there a procedure that I can follow?<br>
> ><br>
> > The project is still in development, but next April we will release a<br>
> beta<br>
> > version for a limited range of users-testers.<br>
> > The project is completely non-profit and it would provide maximum<br>
> freedom,<br>
> > independence and privacy for its users.<br>
> > That’s why, I’d like to have from backend some stats by api-user-agent:<br>
> > that would guarantees the total privacy of the user, and, at the same<br>
> time,<br>
> > the project could have some general stats about the traffic, the<br>
> > utilisation and its impact on the general Wikimedia stats.<br>
> ><br>
> > If someone among you is interested in these issues (open-shared-cultural<br>
> > heritage, open linked data), I’d like to keep in touch and, even, to<br>
> > propose to partecipate as tester in April.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you in advance,<br>
> > Kind regards,<br>
> > Viviana Paga<br>
> > <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-paga-42bb8b44/</a><br>
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