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   1. Re: Soft launch : WikiAfrica website (Isaac Olatunde)


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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:37:00 -0400
From: Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac@gmail.com>
To: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
Cc: Mailing list for African Wikimedians
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Soft launch : WikiAfrica website
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I mean "Wiki Africa User Group" is long overdue.

Regards,

Isaac

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Flo,
>
> Thank you so much for your comprehensive clarification. I concur with you
> per your elaborate explanation which is actually convincing.
>
> At this point, I think "Wiki Africa" is long overdue!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Isaac.
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Being bold here...
>>
>>
>> Africa Centre tried vaguely to claim intellectual property rights over
>> the term when Isla stopped working there. It does not really make sense as
>>
>> 1) the first one to use the term (and who made the logo I think) was
>> Iolanda back in 2006. And back then, her project was a "lettera27
>> Foundation project run in collaboration with Wikimedia Italia".
>>
>> 2), The Africa Centre first got involved in a WikiAfrica project in ...
>> 2011, with Isla.
>>
>> So from an anteriority perspective... their claim can simply not make it.
>>
>>
>> 3) Several projects which run under that banner never involved Africa
>> Centre. For example WikiFundi was never related to them. And has been
>> clearly called a WikiAfrica project since its inception.
>>
>>
>> So if they felt they had a ground... they would complain. Which they do
>> not. I am not aware they object to anything at the moment.
>>
>>
>> Actually, Africa Center considered making a grant request to WMF a few
>> months ago. I think for an education project. But I did not see any project
>> grant from them the last two sessions, so I guess they finally decided
>> otherwise.
>>
>> I think... it is normal that Africa Centre use its legacy and show what
>> they have done in the past. I do not think they have run ANY WikiAfrica
>> project since Isla left. At least, I am not aware of any and there is
>> nothing new on their website. But, what was done under Africe Centre banner
>> is part of their legacy. And that's a non profit organization that needs to
>> show what it has done to get funding for other projects. So WikiAfrica is
>> one of their programmes..
>>
>> -------
>>
>> I would not say WikiAfrica is a program. That's a set of initiatives led
>> in the wiki world, to improve production and availability of free knowledge
>> about Africa and Africa participation. In my view, that's a UserGroup. And
>> we probably should create an official one at some point. But that's the
>> concept.
>>
>> I think it is complementary to what the chapters and usergroup do in the
>> sense that it is cross-countries.
>> For example, a few days ago, some people decided to kick start a "education-focused
>> User Group". There are education programmes in every chapter basically...
>> the User Group will just be a "transversal" thing.
>> There is also a WikiWomen UserGroup (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
>> ki/WikiWomen%27s_User_Group). And there are projects women related in
>> many chapters as well.
>>
>> Who owns WikiAfrica ? Well, no one. Maybe we should ask for a
>> trademark... but really... I am not sure why we should bother.
>>
>> If one of you guys want to start a WikiAfrica project (the missing
>> tile...), just move on and do it. But if the project is going to be run in
>> only ONE country, it is probably better to do it within your country
>> UserGroup or Chapter. If the project is cross-country... WikiAfrica makes
>> sense.
>>
>>
>> (if needed, I am sure Isla or I can have other ideas for that nemissingw
>> tile... we can also make an entire NEW ROW ! Trust that part)
>>
>> -------
>>
>> To go back to the Africa Center question... I see no problem for them to
>> run projects under the WikiAfrica banner...
>> * as long as they do not claim they own the whole stuff...
>> * as long as they do not claim they managed all the WikiAfrica
>> projects...
>> * as long as they do not prevent others to run projects under this
>> banner...
>> * as long as the projects are within values and rules consistant to what
>> wikimedians would consider the "right thing" (such as free licence outcome
>> etc.)
>>
>> If they start a new project within this framework... that can be the
>> missing tile ;)
>>
>>
>> The last projects we run, we did so with other hosts and partners
>> (Wikimedia CH, Ynternet.org and Goethe Institute in particular). We may run
>> future ones under the newborn Wiki in Africa association. We may also run
>> them with the Kiwix association. Who knows !!!!
>>
>> We thought important to have a place to showcase those projects as a
>> whole. We also thought important to acknowledge the role each of those
>> hosts and partners have played. Africa Centre certainly played an important
>> part there and it is important that its role and involvement be recognised.
>> But it is one amongst others. As displayed here :
>> http://www.wikiafrica.org/category/wikiafrica-is-hosted-and-supported-by/
>>
>>
>> Flo
>>
>> Le 09/06/2017 à 13:23, Isaac Olatunde a écrit :
>>
>> Thank you, Isla.
>>
>> My understanding of your comment is that "Wiki Africa" is an intellectual
>> property of Flo, Lopenza and you and Africa Center do not have any control
>> over it. Correct? Per the claim here, <http://www.africacentre.net/> do
>> you think Africa Center is mistaken? or they are in fact, correct (i.e it's
>> their program, they owns it?
>>
>> Let me know if you wish to discuss off-list.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Isaac
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood <
>> isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:
>>
>>> It is on a wordpress site is there a problem with it Rexford?
>>>
>>> Excuse the brevity, sent from my iPhone.
>>>
>>> On 08 Jun 2017, at 22:32, Nkansah Rexford <seanmavley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any chance the website could use a WordPress theme instead of
>>> this custom made one?
>>>
>>> Something similar along the lines of what was used for the
>>> wikilovesafrica website?
>>>
>>> rexford
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 8, 2017, Isla Haddow Flood <isla@wikiloveswomen.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> After a lot of time and effort, we are VERY pleased to announce the
>>>> launch for the WikiAfrica.org website. www.wikiafrica.org
>>>>
>>>> The website has been completely revamped in order to give due credit to
>>>> all the members of the moment - including sponsors, hosts and, of course,
>>>> to showcase the projects. Please feel free to look through the website and
>>>> suggest changes or where you feel more information could be added. At the
>>>> moment, the information is very sparse and is designed to lead people to
>>>> investigate the projects in more depth via their own websites, or to get
>>>> involved with the existing wikimedia chapters and affiliates.
>>>>
>>>> We look forward to your feedback,
>>>>
>>>> Isla and Florence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
>>>> Co-project Manager
>>>> Username: Islahaddow
>>>>
>>>>
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