On 5 September 2013 17:46, Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Question: can we just merge References and Reference
list tools, making
the list function a secondary option under references?
You mean like Microsoft Word's "insert list on click" vs. "show list
insertion menu on click-and-hold"? Yeah, we've considered this (and also
for other interface components like lists), but we've not built that widget
yet.
I've been dogfooding VE for quite some time, and I
am continually confused
by the distinction between these two, including by the very similar icons.
Yeah, the icons are confusing. Better icons or icon ideas always
appreciated, of course. :-)
Now that the icons are labelled (see the toolbar for the VE test
page<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test?veaction=edit>)t>),
it may be clearer; I can foresee the reference button ending up in the main
toolbar, with the reference list button being in the "Insert" long-menu,
for example.
We've considered automatically just inserting a reference list at the
bottom of the page if there isn't one in the page already (though this is
complicated to detect thanks to {{reflist}} and its friends), or warning on
save ("Hey, you've added references but no reference list - would you like
to add one automatically? Add | Continue"), though this only lowers the
need, not removes.
J.
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James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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