[Wikipedia-l] Re: Less than an outright ban

[Jeroen Heijmans]

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>What do people think about a Selective Block? How would things have been =
>different if we had done this with any of the following?
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>* Helga (H. Jonat)
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I don't think a partial ban would have helped here. As far as I've 
followed it, there were many articles where she kept on "violating" 
certain agreements/rules. Freezing an article (for Helga alone) might 
have stopped a problem at one article, but it wouldn't have kept her 
from doing the same with other articles.

>* DW
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Same point. The Canadian thing wasn't the first time DW "violated" 
wikipediquette. Also: these were mainly on the talk page, which wouldn't 
have helped. The Canadian thing seems to go quite well now, we all seem 
to be satisfied with a new approach on which we're working at a 
temporary page.

Anyway, maybe it is better to have something like this: If a user 
repeatedly violates some rule, convention, whatever and has ignored 
pleas from others to follow that rule, we could raise some flag in the 
database and show the user a page with "Other Wikipedians have not you 
have repeatedly violated X. Please read this documentation over X. If 
you disagree with X, please go to Talk:X or Wikipedia-L. If you continue 
to disrespect X, other measures may follow...".

In this way, the use "gets reminded" all the time, and can't deny 
knowing about the rule. Next measures be a ban from editing specific 
articles, all articles (or talks if appropriate), etc.

Jeronimo