He's free to monitor them.
What is important is how the community develops a consensus about the said
matter.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Konarak Ratnakar <konarak.11(a)live.com>wrote;wrote:
What if he's monitoring all India related lists
and the related
discussions?
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:33 -0800
From: parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
IT is sad, but true about what happened to Nicholas. While the edits by
WifiOne are clearly CoI based, for now I choose to disconnect the user from
Nichalp in my POV.
Nicholas was the ideal Role model for us back in 2007-8-9. He churned out
articles of good quality like no one.
It was indeed sad that he had to resort to what he did.
It proves that a man is remembered more for what evil deeds he does and
not what good he does.
Few people would know that Nichalp was the original uploader of Indian
maps on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons.
As for the IIPM related edits, yes, not just WifiOne, but another editor,
who replied to the Talk page of the 'Management Guru', seem to be doing
what it takes from keeping others from editing that article.
Said user believes that I, or User:Utcursh shouldn't edit the article AS:
i] I tweeted negatively about IIPM.
ii] Utcursh is from another Business School an thus has a CoI.
This resulted in MikeLynch taking a neutral stand on the talk page which
resulted in the said user voting against in Mike's RfA, [and again, blaming
it ON me!]
I think we need a special talk about this IIPM matter on the English
mailing list.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:20 AM, <wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Wifione commented on this
discussion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3aArindam_Chaudhuri#New_sec…on>.
He redacted some comments there, a few hours later, with this
edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:No_original_res…
WP:No Original Research - he changed "trial" to "trial/litigation
in any country" and "published by any involved party" to "published
/authored by any involved party" and also changed Book Reviews from being
considered a secondary source to being considered a primary source. Its
interesting to note that the changes he made in policy relate somewhat to
the discussion taking place on an article talk page where he was involved.
Also, the following statements:
"Please provide valid sources to support this statement. MSN is not a
reliable source." - Wifione 06:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC) (this
discussion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3aIndian_Institute_of_Manag…
)
The MSN
article<http://education.in.msn.com/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=…
actually an article by IANS (an independent News Agency), carried by MSN
and others like Yahoo
News<http://my.news.yahoo.com/fight-corruption-iim-lucknow-graduating-st…ml>.
A comment about the same Yahoo News article: ".. Yahoo link simply shows
the opinion of Mr. Devi Singh from IIM Lucknow. That is a self-published
statement which should not be used to make a definitive statement." -
Wifione 19:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC) (Same discussion)
Im not commenting on the contents of the original email, the above
definitely looks a bit out of order to me.
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +1100
From: jayvdb(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
CC: wikimedia-in-en(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
<tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Unbelievable but Shocking !
I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ...
So far the evidence is not good.
> but a look at the edit history
> of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the
interests
> of IIPM and its stakeholders.
>
> He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&…
It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there
arnt many changes.
"trial" became "trial/litigation in any country"
and he added "independent" a few times.
"Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable
secondary source for that interpretation."
"Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable,
independent secondary sources for that interpretation."
"'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate
material
found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable
secondary sources that do so."
'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate
material
found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable,
independent secondary sources that do so."
"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources.
Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have
been published by a reliable secondary source."
"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary
sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim
''only
if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent,
reliable
secondary sources."
> Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM)
articles
> as well, possibly trying to show them in bad
light.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=histo…
>
> Nevertheless , this has be investigated or possibly reported to Arb
Com.
I've alerted Arbcom as a courtesy, however a community assessment is
needed in order to determine if there is any credible link to nichalp
or any reason for a desysop.
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