Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 21, Issue 18

I wish to attend the meeting. What are the procedures for this? (Any registration needed) Sainu CEO CYBROSYS Technologies Sent from my BlackBerry® Bold -----Original Message----- From: wikimediaindia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:50:25 To: &lt;wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 21, Issue 18 Send Wikimediaindia-l mailing list submissions to wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimediaindia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimediaindia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimediaindia-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12 (CherianTinu Abraham) 2. Re: WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12 (CherianTinu Abraham) 3. Clarification, Apology and Plans. (Kiruba @ Kiruba.com) 4. Re: Wikimedia India Chapter (Shahid Akhtar) 5. Re: Wikimedia India Chapter (Gautam John) 6. Re: Wikimedia India Chapter (Srikanth Lakshmanan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:38:11 +0530 From: CherianTinu Abraham &lt;tinucherian(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12 To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: &lt;3b6306b91003110808q17f85e15q9aa350a6ca9bf02c(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Since there was no consensus, we are keeping the date as same on march 12 Please try to come. Regards Tinu Cherian On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:44 PM, CherianTinu Abraham &lt;tinucherian(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20100311/… ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:14:41 +0530 From: CherianTinu Abraham &lt;tinucherian(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12 To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: &lt;3b6306b91003110844x19f41f89oe509c951470b831e(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oops. The correct date is* March 14th, Sunday. * Sorry for the confusion. Thanks Anirudh for pointing it out. Regards Tinu Cherian On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM, anirudhsbh (wiki) wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20100311/… ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:26:05 +0530 From: "Kiruba @ Kiruba.com" &lt;kiruba(a)kiruba.com&gt; Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Clarification, Apology and Plans. To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: &lt;f27636d31003112056y3bc1e702me0bff8950587c023(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello team, Its great to see that there has been some concrete efforts to establish the Indian Chapter of Wikimedia Foundation. After many years of repeated efforts, its good to see that we are close to fruitition. There is a strong team with diverse background and rich involvement in Wikipedia working on this. While I was initially part of this effort, I'm no longer involved with the formation of the foundation. There are times I overran myself in the assumption that Foundation formation time could happen sooner and assumed I'd be part of the board and hence a Director (designate) without realizing the really long gestation period it takes to set up the foudation or the confusion it would cause. In this regard, I apologise to the entire Wikipedia India community. I will continue to be associated with helping out with Wikipedia outreach and the concept of Open Knowledge on a personal level. This year, I'll help in organizing Creative Commons Salon (bringing in artists who believe in open creativity), Wikipedia Academy ( to teach people who interested in contributing but dont know how) and WikiCamp (an unconference that will aim to tap into the concept of collective wisdom using wikis, and not just Wikipedia). I recently published a book 'Wikipedia : A beginners' Guide' which is completely on a CC license. I seek help in translating this into mulitple Indian languages and freely distribute this to school libraries in towns and villages. Any help in this regard would be highly welcome. All these activies are done as a volunteer without assuming any formal positions and look forward to contributing actively. I can be reached at 98415 97744 and at Kiruba(a)Kiruba.com. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Kiruba Shankar Cell: +91-0-98415 97744 Email: Kiruba(a)Kiruba.com Personal Blog: http://Kiruba.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/kiruba Linkedin: http://linkedin.com/in/kiruba -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20100312/… ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: 12 Mar 2010 07:17:04 -0000 From: "Shahid Akhtar" &lt;mohd.shahid_akhtar(a)rediffmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter To: &lt;wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Message-ID: &lt;20100312071704.1497.qmail(a)f6mail-144-200.rediffmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakash&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;me.praveen(a)gmail.com&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;wroteamp;gt;&nbsp;wrote: K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar?&nbsp; What was the election process &amp; criteria? How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why even Hindi not informed? This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more inclusive and transparent! Who decided the list of founding members (Signatories) mentioned on this page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA#WIKIMEDIA_INDIA? And how was this list decided? How come Gautam K John (who is self-admittedly not involved with Wikipedia) was invited to be a founding member, but someone like User:Bhadani was not? Why is some like HPN who has not made even 100 edits in 2009 and 2010 to English, Kannada and Sanskrit Wikipedias combined together is at the forefront of this initiative, but some of the most important contributors from Indic wikipedias are not even a part of this? I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all the people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be a bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian media without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia. Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community to handle it. If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and dining, this should be named "Wikimedia Bangalore" chapter, not "Wikipedia INDIA" chapter! Best regards Shahid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20100312/… ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:04:20 +0530 From: Gautam John &lt;gautam(a)prathambooks.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: &lt;b7b2abbc1003112334t2243be6et90b9f79f4f8a445a(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Shahid and Praveen: It's a fair point you raise. The group arose out of those who had shown a previous communicated interest in being part of a local chapter formation. It wasn't a secretly selected group but one that came together basis a common and communicated cause. As for me, yes, I am not a Wikipedian and I accept that criticism. However, if I may make a point. An organization needs representation not just from within its own community but also from those outside who share the vision and the philosophy. Would you say that of everyone who has been so kind as to spare immense amounts of time and put in much effort to get it to this stage? Yes. It will. Which is why we need you and everyone else in the community to hold the organization accountable. There have been previous efforts at getting this organization started - the need of the hour was getting it up and running. I think it'd be great if we could do that. Thank you. Best, Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:20:02 +0530 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan &lt;srik.lak(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: &lt;60f4e09a1003112350y6039266ctcc1e2934baa1264d(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Shahid Akhtar < mohd.shahid_akhtar(a)rediffmail.com&gt; wrote: *My Few paisas.* As to my understanding after reading the MoA, there are no special privileges to founding members apart from not requiring to "apply for membership".[Authors can clarify if my understanding is not right] I suppose there would be an election after the formation and only the elected persons will have additional privileges than a normal member. So in that sense, who starts it really doesn't matter. I dont know why people are cribbing its secret / closed group when meta was up all the while. Did anyone make a point to edit any of the meta pages and was it left undiscussed / discarded? No one stopped anyone from doing that. Trust is not measured in terms of edit count.Showing up on the day and commitment in real world is also required and I guess the people who signed the MoA did that. I agree with pan-India comment but again elections would happen I guess and as i already mentioned "founding members" dont get any extra privileges. Probably some clause can be added to include regional / linugual EC members.I would add that right away to discussion page. Sorry i take the wine and dine comment too seriously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MBL is not about wine and dine. Please go through the pages to see what was going on the meetings. -- Regards Srikanth.L http://j.mp/SrikanthL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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