On 16/06/14 13:03, billinghurst wrote:
I am looking for a productive mailing list that
discusses matters of
importance to the Wikimedia community. That the people on such a list can
have these discussions politely, respectfully, and with concern for others
in that the words that say, and attitudes taken. I want to see
announcements, I want to see a higher quality of conversation on what
should be a flaglist in the mailing list space of Wikimedia.
That's a tautology. You can't postmoderate a mailing list. There's not
even any meaningful access control (luckily the trolls haven't figured
that out yet). You can't even premoderate in any meaningful way,
because people use "reply all" to send messages directly to the thread
participants. So there's not really any way to do better than what
we're doing already.
People get angry when there are 10 posts in a row on a topic that they
don't care about, because they use unthreaded clients and so have no
way to organise messages into groups. And people that do use threaded
clients are constantly annoyed when people send to the list in a way
that breaks threading.
The way to have a better mailing list is to not use a mailing list.
NNTP with a web frontend would be better in pretty much every way.
-- Tim Starling