I am looking for a productive mailing list that discusses matters of importance to the Wikimedia community. That the people on such a list can have these discussions politely, respectfully, and with concern for others in that the words that say, and attitudes taken. I want to see announcements, I want to see a higher quality of conversation on what should be a flaglist in the mailing list space of Wikimedia. We don't have it. One gets to the point of utter frustration with this list, and it is time that the backstabbers, frontstabbers, bitchfighters, venal, conceited, etc. need a place to kill each other with as much venom as possible, but not under the more impressive and specific name of wikimedia-l. So please rename this list, and take all its people to something befitting the behaviour seen. Then please produce a clean list for those who don't have to have the antics of these unbearable, egotistical, and apparently intolerant and chauvinistic people, and please don't let them join that list. They can have their shithole and revel in it. They know who they are and they would feel ashamed if they had a modicum of interest outside of themselves. If that is not possible, then those of who us who want a higher quality discussion will unsubscribe, and be unrepresented and unheard. Another win for the trolls, and a sad reflection on the direction. Regards, Billinghurst _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

I am looking for a productive mailing list that discusses matters of importance to the Wikimedia community. That the people on such a list can have these discussions politely, respectfully, and with concern for others in that the words that say, and attitudes taken. I want to see announcements, I want to see a higher quality of conversation on what should be a flaglist in the mailing list space of Wikimedia.