[WikiEN-l] deletionism in popular culture

[Ian Woollard]

On 07/11/2009, Ryan Delaney <ryan.delaney at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's usually a worthwhile suggestion. The reason that won't work here,
> though, is that PWD requires edits to the software to work. In other words,
> this is an all-or-nothing enterprise-- we'd probably have to get the whole
> project behind the complete overhaul before anything could be done.
> Obviously, this is a major barrier to implementation.

I don't see any changes to the software are necessary, just the
creation of some templates and some policy. What change is supposed to
be needed?

> - causa sui
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The best thing to do with this kind of thing is just to try it on a
>> random subset of AFDs. If it works, scale it up, if it doesn't, kill
>> it.
>>
>> On 06/11/2009, Ryan Delaney <ryan.delaney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Surreptitiousness <
>> > surreptitious.wikipedian at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ryan Delaney wrote:
>> >> > imes, as with fast-developing current events, there are eyewitness
>> >> > accounts that get added to the article before they appear in printed
>> >> > news
>> >> > sources. In these cases, it's better to remove the content and wait
>> for
>> >> the
>> >> > verifiable source. Pure Wiki Deletion allows us to do that easily --
>> we
>> >> can
>> >> > blank the page, and then restore it when citations become available.
>> >> >
>> >> Pure wiki deletion would need a culture shift though, wouldn't it?  I
>> >> mean, you'd have to get that bot turned off which reverts page
>> >> blanking,
>> >> for starters. But I'd definitely be willing to give it a go.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I think it definitely would require a massive cultural shift, and it
>> would
>> > be best to "feel out" the climate before diving headfirst into making
>> > proposals.  Frankly, deletion process is so entrenched at this point
>> > that
>> > serious reform will always be a long shot, and that's why my intuition
>> > is
>> > that we should be prepared for this to take months- or years. There are
>> > a
>> > lot of people who don't read this mailing list who will get hives when
>> they
>> > find out that someone wants to take away their precious rules. If and
>> when
>> > we do move forward with this, we should prepare the ground for these
>> folks
>> > before we go live with proposals and RFCs. I'm all ears if there are any
>> > suggestions for a gameplan of getting this done.
>> >
>> > - causa sui
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