[WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

[wjhonson at aol.com]

Here is what I think you mean.  In a situation where there are only two 
items that might be confused with each other, should we have a page for 
those? Or should we, at the top of each item, merely point at the other 
item?  That's what it sounds like to me.  And in that situation, where 
we have two things both called say "White Glove", we should just point 
at each of them, from the top of the other article, thus not have a 
disamg page to list two items.

Will Johnson



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From: Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 2:35 am
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

OK. I'll break it down:

1) Do you accept that trivial disambiguations can be unencyclopedic?

Carcharoth

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:59 AM, <wjhonson at aol.com> wrote:
> I have no idea what you just ask.  That's a lot of jargon for one
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> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:06 pm
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes
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> Will, simple question: do you accept that trivial disambiguations can
> be unencyclopedic and give the wrong impression, and if so, is having
> a neutral dab hatlink better than a jarring note being sounded at the
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op of a page, the first thing the reader will read after the title?
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> OK, that was a long simple question...
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> Carcharoth
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, <WJhonson at aol.com> wrote:
>> This is how I do it.  If in "Plankton" we have only one other thing
> named
>> planton, then we shouldn't have a disamg page just for two items.
>  That seems
>> overkill.  So in that case SB_Plankton makes sense.  If however in
> "Bob
>> Jones" we have 15 people, 3 things, and 2 places named "Bob Jones"
> then it
>> makes sense to have a disamg page.
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>> I.E. there's a trade-off in having too many clicks, where it is?  two
>> items? or three?
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>> W.J
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>> In a message dated 8/19/2009 7:37:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> carcharothwp at googlemail.com writes:
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>>> If there really is a chance that
>>> people will search for "plankton" in an attempt to find out about 
the
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>>> SB character, then the hatnote should be neutral and direct people 
to
>>> a disambiguation page ("for other things named plankton, see here").
>>> And I don't care if that disambiguation page only has two entries.
>>> That is an acceptable trade-off to having a spongebob squarepants
>>> character name jarring people's reading experience by being placed 
at
>>> the top of an unrelated article.
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